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RE: Deleting IFS Object - Authorities Question

If by APIs you mean the C APIs you have to use O_INHERITMODE (Dcl-C O_INHERITMODE 134217728;) to get the authority of the folder/directory the file goes into. We use GoAnywhere (java based) and it does not have an option to set to make it create IFS files that use O_INHERITMODE. We have to use CHGAUT to give others access to the files.

-Matt


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From: MIDRANGE-L <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Brad Stone
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2021 7:18 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Deleting IFS Object - Authorities Question

So, where does the authority come from when IFS objects are created using APIs (which appear to be adopted from the directory) vs when Java creates it (which makes no sense).

On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 9:57 PM Charles Wilt <charles.wilt@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Neither Java nor IFS objects support adopted authority.

Charles

On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 3:36 PM Brad Stone <bvstone@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Here's another funny thing.. .I can use the user ID that "doesn't
have authority" to the object to rename it and change the authority
to *RWX *ALL.

I know this is probably something unique to Java, but I'm curious
why and what would be the fix so that the Java routine acts the same
as far as adopted authority as everything else.

On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 4:28 PM Brad Stone <bvstone@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

HEre's some more info I got testing.

It's a java program creating the file, and here are the
authorities for the file when created:

Data --Object Authorities--
User Authority Exist Mgt Alter Ref

*PUBLIC *RW X X X X
TEST *RW


Now, the directory has this authority:

Data --Object Authorities--
Opt User Authority Exist Mgt Alter Ref

*PUBLIC *RWX X X X X

So the issue seems to be the java application isn't adopting
authority like other things do (IFS commands, APIs, etc)

On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 12:19 PM Brad Stone <bvstone@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Ya, that's what I'm finding. But I am trying to help them figure
out why... I don't think they were removed, they were just never granted.
And
the user in question is the one running the application to create
it
in
the
first place.

All my testing has shown the file adopts authorities from the
directory.

Of course, if they run it with a user with *ALLOBJ it works fine
and
the
file is removed.

On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 12:14 PM Charles Wilt
<charles.wilt@xxxxxxxxx

wrote:

If by "the user profile appears to not have any object authorities"
you
mean this

Data --Object Authorities--
User Authority Exist Mgt Alter Ref

*PUBLIC *RWX X X X X
CWILT5 *RWX

Then it would appear that the owner's authorities have been
removed
and
would explain why they can't delete the file.

Normally the owner (CWILT5) should have
Data --Object Authorities--
User Authority Exist Mgt Alter Ref

*PUBLIC *RWX X X X X
CWILT5 *RWX X X X X


Charles


On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 11:03 AM Brad Stone <bvstone@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

The user profile appears to not have any object authorities. It
also
doesn't have private authority to the directory.

*PUBLIC has exist, mgt, alter and ref. The user doesn't have
any
of
these.



On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 11:33 AM Charles Wilt <
charles.wilt@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Does the user happen to have a private authority to the
directory?

That would take precedence over *PUBLIC.

*RWX applies to the contents...

WHat are the object authorities?
Data --Object Authorities--
Opt User Authority Exist Mgt Alter Ref

*PUBLIC *RWX X X X X

Charles

On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 10:20 AM Brad Stone
<bvstone@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

What authorities to the parent directory and file does a
profile
need
to
have to be able to delete a stream file?

I've run into a case where *PUBLIC has *RWX authority to
the
directory
and
*RW authority to the file.

The User ID that is running the RMVLNK command has *RW
authority
to the
file and is the owner, yet they aren't able to delete the file.
It was
originally created under that user profile as well.

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