Re: Any way to tell when a JVM on a midrange box was last updated?

And you mine.

THE VAST Majority of people I know and work with say Power Systems and IBM i. It's only people such as yourself who are just determined to live in the past that insist on using names long dead, AND apparently associating with those old people as well.

Sure a massive percentage of people don't know ANY of the names! But then there are a million things I haven't heard of either because I don't work in those industries or areas. Those people don't matter here as they are not us.

MY POINT is that if you DO work in this area and you ARE aware of the correct names, you should use them. If you use them then those around you will use them. And then the people around them will use them. As a result a few more persons will know that our wonderful platform continues to be modernized and gain new capabilities and is no longer that old thing many have remembered from the previous century.

Spending tons of effort justifying the use of the names of the past just doesn't make any sense at all. Call it what it is and sound like you're in the present not the past and that you care about our system.

- DrF

On 2/17/2022 11:24 PM, John Yeung wrote:

On Thu, Feb 17, 2022 at 6:12 PM Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis
<midrange@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

The name 'midrange' has never been used by IBM nor will it ever be. It
is only slang used by many who are already in the know.

I respectfully disagree. The most popular name BY FAR for this
platform for people who are NOT "already in the know" is AS/400.

"We have met the enemy, and it is us!"

Your statement should be "The most popular name for the heritage of this
platform is AS/400."

The name for the server is IBM Power System and the name for the
operating system is IBM i. This has been the name longer than any other
name! Facts are hard to dispute.

As usual, you've completely and utterly missed the point of my post.

I said "most popular". That just means "used by the most people". It
says literally nothing at all about correctness.

If you just go around asking people on the street whether they've
heard of "AS/400", "IBM midrange", "IBM i", etc. (add whatever names
you want to on the list), the most common answer BY FAR will be "I've
never heard of any of them." I have not done this scientifically, but
I am very confident this covers well over 75% of the people you'd
encounter at random. (Honestly, if I had to guess, I'd say more like
90%. I don't think even 75% of all *programmers* are aware of this
platform, never mind the general public.)

But among the people who have heard of at least one of the names, the
most common one will be AS/400, and again, it will not be close.

You were saying that the term "midrange" would only be used by people
already in the know. What I am saying is, the group of people for whom
"IBM i" is the most commonly used term are people which I would
consider "already in the know".

John Y.