Re: With the dropping of a few features from IBM i are there vendor software concerns?

[Vern Hamberg <vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Gavin

First, I have heard nothing to even suggest that these things will be 
removed in future releases. The announcement says that these products 
will not be part of the catalog in releases after 7.5 - and there have 
been statements about support - eventually you will be running 
unsupported software.

You raise an interesting point - compile level - that is a function of 
the compilers. You might be able to take SEU as an example - you can use 
SEU to edit fully free-form RPG if you want, and you will see all kinds 
of error indications, since SEU is sunsetted (or frozen, effectively) at 
6.1 for RPG, for sure. Is it really wise to have to remember to type N 
when exiting SEU in the field that says errors exist?

The only thing in SDA that you can't do in RDi is menus - so submit an 
Idea, broadcast it here, get people to vote for it.

Or look at the Application Display Programming manual at 
https://publibfp.dhe.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/c4157151.pdf - it has chapters on 
creating *DSPF menus, *PGM menus, and *UIM menus - none of those options 
require the SDA option for menus. In RDi, along with the iSphere 
plugins, you can edit and create the DSPF and the MSGF that are used for 
the first type. WRKMNU shows you which type of menu they are, option 8 
for *DSPF tell you the DSPF and MSGF. I didn't see a way to retrieve 
source for UIM - that'd be an interesting thing to ask for. Also, 
perhaps, a UDA - UIM Design Aid. I mean, it appears every system menu is 
*UIM type, I hope IBM have a design-aid for UIM, but I bet their 
developers have to do that manually.

Regards
Vern

On 9/23/2024 9:58 PM, Gavin Inman wrote:
> As with other Older, not included Lic Programs, specifically, will the 
> DFU and SDA programs work with future V7R6+ versions at the V7R5 level?
>
> Will any upgrade automatically remove them or will they just not be 
> replaced?
>
> Gavin
>
> On 9/23/2024 9:43 AM, Rob Berendt wrote:
>
> Does anyone know of any vendor supplied solution for IBM i which will 
> have
> an issue with this statement?
>
> IBM i 7.5 will be the last release that will deliver the following
> functions from the IBM i portfolio:
>
> https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/node/668193
>
>
> Just trying to find out if I need any vendor issues resolved before that
> comes out. Based on IBM i's 3 year cycle it's likely to be next spring.