Hi Patarik

You have a way of making me hunt for things. I went to a favorite information resource, QSYSINC, and, in particular, the H source file. I searched there for *PASE* and found 4 members that included that term in the text. In fact, there are 3 members that use the phrase *OS/400 PASE* in the comment header, and 1 with the phrase *I5/OS PASE*. The 3 were new at V5R1 in 2000, while the 1 was new at V4R3 in 1997 but "externalized" at V5R1 in 2000.

The 7.1 PASE manual has this statement - "...PASE for i also supports the direct processing of IBM PowerPC® machine instructions,..." and goes on to say that it is not an emulation. It also says "The PASE for i integrated run time runs on the Licensed Internal Code kernel on the IBM i operating system." which suggests a hierarchy.

I guess I'd lobby for using PASE for itself and i5/OS for what we think of as IBM i.

BTW, there is a job named SCPF - seems to be pretty close to the job that is part of an IPL. The job log shows objects deleted from QRPLOBJ, as well as PTF objects. Others here will know whether this job name has been around since System/38 days.

Good times!

*Regards*

*Vern Hamberg*

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On 3/25/2025 3:36 AM, Patrik Schindler wrote:
Hello Roger,

Am 25.03.2025 um 05:29 schrieb Roger Harman<roger.harman@xxxxxxxxxxx>:

I would think the default, without any qualification, would be considered IBM i. PASE would be a needed qualifier.
PASE is unambiguous in itself, but PASE is a component of IBM i. Hence IBM i is not the same like IBM i when you refer to what is not PASE, where you have those fancy menus, type guessable command names and run applications "with tags on", etc. I hope this is comprehensible?

Other people bringing in the layering of LIC and "that what runs on top of LIC" don't make things easier. ;-)

"That what runs on top of LIC" is what I try to find a name for, I guess.

I assumed you were meaning CL/CLP or similar.
Comes closer, albeit CL/CLP is also a programming language.

Remember, CPF was the name of the operating system starting back in the System/38 days.
Yes. But as you can see by many message IDs and even the name of the default message file qcpfmsg, the term CPF has been brought forward ever since.

While the AS/400 was in development, CPF was referred to (internally to IBM as I recall) as XPF and, when released, came out as OS/400.
So, OS/400 it is? I already see many people being upset by that term, because it reminds them too much about the AS/400 as an antique hardware platform. But then, even the FTP server in IBM i 7.3 reports back OS/400!

ftp> syst
215 OS/400 is the remote operating system. The TCP/IP version is "V7R3M0".

So, OS/400 might indeed be the correct term for "that what runs on top of LIC"?

I was at COMMON before AS/400 was announced and one of the Rochester developers, in a conversation, referred to XPF and immediately caught himself and corrected to CPF. Several of us looked at each other and he said something to the effect of "Forget you heard that".
LOL!

:wq! PoC



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