Re: [PcTech] Rockin' on without Microsoft

["Adam Lang" <aalang@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

There is a difference between getting fiend, and getting fined AND paying
for all the legal fees.
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From: "Walden H. Leverich III" <WaldenL@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'PC Technical Discussion for iSeries Users'" <pctech@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 11:19 AM
Subject: RE: [PcTech] Rockin' on without Microsoft


> >From: JOberholtzer@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:JOberholtzer@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >they would have gotten the fees that were due,
>
> And fines and back interest?
>
> Or are you saying that if BSA came in and said, oh, you're non-compliant,
> you have five copies of xxx that you don't have a license for, each copy
> costs $100 please pay the software maker $500 everything would be ok?
>
> If the former, ok, if the latter, then every company should simply be
> _willing_ to pay for software. IF they ever get audited then they'll pay
> what they would have in the first place, if they're not audited then they
> don't have to pay for software at all.
>
> -Walden
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: JOberholtzer@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:JOberholtzer@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 9:22 AM
> To: pctech@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [PcTech] Rockin' on without Microsoft
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> <snip>
> Interesting article indeed. The thing that hit me most was:
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> >... [BSA] conducted a raid and subsequent audit ... that turned up
> >a few dozen unlicensed copies of programs.
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> And
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> >"We won't do business with someone who treats us poorly."
>
> Now, when you are using unlicensed copies of software who is treating who
> unfairly?
>
> -Walden
> </snip>
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> OK, Walden I can see you're point, however what you did not mention in the
> article was Ball's point that if the BSA had come in and asked for a
> voluntary audit, and worked with the company, instead of using the Gestapo
> jack boot up front, they would have gotten the fees that were due, and
most
> likely kept a customer.  Remember we are talking about 8 (eight) copies,
> not 1000s.  A little common sense would be nice with these fellas.    We
> had a company in Wisconsin that was treated the same way as Ball, and beat
> the audit 100%.  BSA did not have to pay back this company for the money
> they spent to defend themselves. (almost 20% of the gross profit for the
> year)   Why is that?
>
> Jim Oberholtzer
>
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