RE: [PCTECH] Messaging to a Service

[michael@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]

That's another point. We have about 800 of these things out there, and I
want to be consistent with software, regardless of whether they have the
signature capture device. So installing a service on all of these things
would be interesting. I wrote a rudimentary software update process for
code revisions - wonder what I would need to do to create a service
using that vehicle.

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: RE: [PCTECH] Messaging to a Service
> From: "Walden H. Leverich" <WaldenL@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Mon, March 14, 2005 2:50 pm
> To: "PC Technical Discussion for iSeries Users" <pctech@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> Oh, and obviously you'd have to install the service to run as a user
> that did have sufficient rights to do what you wanted. BTW, what do you
> want to do?
> 
> -Walden 
> 
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of Walden H. Leverich
> Sent: Monday, 14 March, 2005 14:41
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> Subject: RE: [PCTECH] Messaging to a Service
> 
> So if I understand you correctly, this would be a local user clicking on
> a icon and running a local series of commands, with the problem being
> that the local user doesn't have the rights they need. Before we go
> overboard, let's ask the two simple questions, 1) can they be granted
> the access the need? or 2) if they're on XP boxes would RunAs do what
> you needed?
> 
> Assuming you need to write something, sockets are obviously the
> "universal" interface, and aren't that hard to code to in .NET (you are
> using .NET for new development, aren't you? <G>) But if you're looking
> for something else, what about MSMQ, Microsoft's MQ technology. It
> supports local queues, so you'd create a service (also easy in .NET) and
> have that service create a queue (if it didn't already exist) then
> simply sit on a Receive() call. Your "client" code would Send() a
> message with the needed data to the queue and the service would wake up
> and do it's thing then go back to a Receive() wait (sound familiar --
> a'la data queues) 
> 
> -Walden
> 
> ------------
> Walden H Leverich III
> President & CEO
> Tech Software
> (516) 627-3800 x11
> WaldenL@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> http://www.TechSoftInc.com
> 
> Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur.
> (Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.)
>   
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pctech-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pctech-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of michael@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Monday, 14 March, 2005 12:38
> To: PC Technical Discussion for iSeries Users
> Subject: RE: [PCTECH] Messaging to a Service
> 
> Hi Walden -
> 
> Well...I think a Windows service is the right way to go, but there may
> be better ways. I  want to have a Windows service execute a command
> file based on a message passed to the service. Rexec will still be used
> (rexec from the iSeries to a thin client) for other applications, but
> these new applications would be 'clickable' by the unwashed user from
> Start->Programs. The problem is that the user profile on the thin
> client is  so locked down that they don't have the authority (I
> believe) to execute the programs I want them to execute. I can't change
> the user profile, so I thought I could create a service that would run
> under a different user id, and the service would be able to execute the
> commands.
> 
> I'm using MQ to communicate between fat clients and the iSeries, but
> these thin clients don't have enough space to store the MQ code I don't
> think. I'm looking for a small footprint, light weight mechanism to talk
> to a service.
> 
> - Michael
> 
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: RE: [PCTECH] Messaging to a Service
> > From: "Walden H. Leverich" <WaldenL@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Date: Mon, March 14, 2005 12:02 pm
> > To: "PC Technical Discussion for iSeries Users" <pctech@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > 
> > Michael,
> > 
> > Are you saying create a service on Windows and have that service
> "wait"
> > for something like a dataq, but in the windows space? I see you said
> you
> > were using rexec, but I got the feeling you were looking to replace
> > that. What would invoke this request? I don't mean from a technology
> > point of view -- I think that's the question you're asking -- but I
> mean
> > from a platform question. Who is consuming this service? Other VB apps
> > on the same machine? Other VB on another machine, RPG on iSeries? 
> > 
> > Based on the answer to whose consuming the service there are several
> > options, from web services to MQSeries, to MSMQ, to indeed using
> dataqs
> > on the iSeries. 
> > 
> > -Walden
> > 
> > 
> > ------------
> > Walden H Leverich III
> > President & CEO
> > Tech Software
> > (516) 627-3800 x11
> > WaldenL@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > http://www.TechSoftInc.com
> > 
> > Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur.
> > (Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.)
> >   
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
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> > On Behalf Of michael@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Monday, 14 March, 2005 11:10
> > To: PCTech PCTech
> > Subject: [PCTECH] Messaging to a Service
> > 
> > Here's my condundrum. I have some VB applications that are executed on
> > the PC under a specific user ID. The invocation is via rexec, so the
> > user id is passed in. A normal user has little authority, and they
> > don't have the authority to run these applications. So I was thinking
> > of creating a service that would run under the priveleged user and
> > execute the applications for the unprivledged user.
> > 
> > Question: How do I send a message to the service? I could do something
> > like changing a file and having the service poll the file, but that
> > seems 'busy'. I guess I could do it with sockets, but that seems like
> > more effort than I want to spend. What I really want to do is have the
> > service wait on a data queue <smile>. 
> > 
> > All ideas appreciated...
> > 
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