RE: RPG IV and CF-spec "keep it IBM"

["Bob Cozzi" <cozzi@xxxxxxxxx>]

This thinking that CF-specs are going to removing nothing from RPG IV, and
you can just not using is simply wrong, I believe.

IBM will eventually put stuff into the CF-spec that is not support in the
normal extended Factor 2 (EVAL/IF). It allows them to stop supporting that
area of RPG IV because they have this interesting new area for which they
can write code.

Has IBM enhance RPG III since RPG IV came out? Not much. Will they enhance
RPG IV once CF-specs come out? I doubt it.

Bob Cozzi

http://www.RPGIV.com




> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rpg400-l@midrange.com [mailto:owner-rpg400-l@midrange.com]On
> Behalf Of Kahn, David [JNJFR]
> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 1999 3:38 AM
> To: 'RPG400-L@midrange.com'
> Subject: RE: RPG IV and CF-spec "keep it IBM"
>
>
> Bob,
>
> I think this is a fairly extreme position, and you could equally
> argue that
> finally allowing free format expressions in RPG will make it. The CF spec
> removes nothing from the language; it only enhances it. There's
> also no need
> whatever to convert to it. If a shop doesn't want to use it they
> can simply
> have a standard that says "no use of the CF spec".
>
> I know you talk to thousands of people, but it's difficult to imagine that
> you've had thousands of conversations about the CF spec. Unless you're
> introducing the topic to them at your classes and seminars, that is. If
> you're the first person to break the news to them about the new
> spec they're
> obviously going to be highly influenced by your own attitude to
> it, and it's
> clear that you're very much against it. Especially when they're talking to
> the author of THE book on RPG.
>
> I'm not accusing you of deliberate bias, but it's hard to be
> objective when
> summarising the results of private conversations, particularly if one has
> taken a stance in them oneself. Don't disparage comments made on this list
> by a few dozen respondents. A few dozen out of the total membership (maybe
> David can give us the total number of subscribers) is highly significant
> statistically. The list is a public forum open to every RPG programmer in
> the world, and importantly the conversations in it take place in the open
> and on record.
>
> Dave Kahn
> Johnson & Johnson International (Ethicon) France
> Phone : +33 1 55 00 3180
> Email :  dkahn1@jnjfr.jnj.com (work)
>          dkahn@cix.co.uk      (home)
>
>
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De: Bob Cozzi [mailto:cozzi@rpgiv.com]
> Date: 05 August 1999 03:36
> À: RPG400-L@midrange.com
> Objet: RE: RPG IV and CF-spec "keep it IBM"
>
>
> Perhaps after a few years of RPG IV code, if people want to go the
> 'RPG V' route, then sure, go ahead, but in today's world, CF-spec will
> kill RPG IV.
>
> But, hey I only speak from talking to thousands and thousands of RPG
> programmers, not a few dozen respondents from this mailing list (as IBM
> apparently does).
>
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