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them the real world with their projects; for example: Scribble some notes/screen/printer layout on a sheet of 
paper, give 
them two weeks to do the project; two days into it, give 
them another 
project that needs to be done in one day, when they turn it 
in, tell 
them that the project was scraped, and there is no grade for 
it, by the 
end of the week, ask to see how they are coming along; and 
change your mind on the specifications so it looks nothing like 
what you 
originally asked for.  When they submit their project at the end 
of the two 
weeks, ask them where some "real" important piece is; even 
though you did 
not ever tell anyone about it; give them another week to finish 
the project 
- one day into it, give them another project that must also be 
done by the 
end of the week; now for the grade, only accept the last project, 
scrap the one 
that has been changed so much.... If 
they, and you, can get through that - then they are ready for the real 
world... With 
regards; I concur with others; ILE, binding, object orientated concepts; modular 
programming (re-usable code) and 
DOCUMENTATION(of which I am the most notorious for 
forgetting). Wasting 
time on simple print programs is just that; interactive and server based(GUI) 
interfaces is the future. Also 
let them get on the WEB to use the IBM manuals/more importantly the RED 
books. Another 
great thing to help the students out, is something that is difficult to put into 
words; you either have it or you don't -     but remember who you are talking to - be it 
the CEO or the guy on the line putting a peg in a hole, never talk down to them, 
    listen to their issues, and assure them 
that you will do what you can to make their lives easier. Being a 
programmer is no longer a profession where you are in a hole for 8-12 hours a 
day and see no light, no other human life forms, you 
must not only be analytical, but a people person too... HTH Mark A. Manske  
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