RE: ILE adoption rate

["Bob Cozzi \(RPGIV\)" <cozzi@xxxxxxxxx>]

I think it was said earlier: The best language is the one you know best.
Corporate policy makes people move to new languages--look at Home Depot,
they made a corporate decision to move to Java--the end users hate the
results, but they're there. Why, because of several reasons, probably a
little hiring ability, a little hype, a little technical superiority, a
little intelligence, and a little stupidity.

The strange thing is, C is available today, and C++ is somewhat
available today. But RPG is kind on AS/400 and will remain that way for
a long time. And we're not talking about the problems with Java, or C,
or C++, we're talking about the issues with RPG. I'm not here to save
you from jumping off a bridge. If you want to go live off of Java, go do
it, and I wish you nothing buy luck. After all, it just leaves more for
me. <vbg>

Bob Cozzi
cozzi@rpgiv.com
Visit the on-line  Midrange  Developer  forum at: http://www.rpgiv.com


> -----Original Message-----
> From: rpg400-l-admin@midrange.com [mailto:rpg400-l-admin@midrange.com]
On
> Behalf Of Bartell, Aaron L. (TC)
> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 11:09 AM
> To: 'rpg400-l@midrange.com'
> Subject: RE: ILE adoption rate
>
> >What's IBM to do? Can't afford to alienate the traditionalists and
can't
> afford the 'old and
> proprietary closed system' image that the traditionalists
(unconsciously?)
> perpetuate.
>
> My comment on this would be if IBM doesn't start catering to a younger
> generation of programmers, from the RPG perspective, eventually people
wont
> even use RPG because companies wont hear that it has great new
capabilities
> comparable to highly publicized languages.
>
> If my company buys a kick butt system where I don't have to worry
about the
> fast-ness of Java or database access complexities, why would I use RPG
to
> try and develop applications? ... I am just posing the question.
>
>
> Aaron Bartell
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Buck Calabro [mailto:Buck.Calabro@commsoft.net]
> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 9:32 AM
> To: rpg400-l@midrange.com
> Subject: ILE adoption rate
>
>
> >> >Maybe it's because there just aren't that many of us
> >> >doing ILE development yet.
> >>
> >> I still hear that RPG III is plenty good enough and that
> >> climbing a new
> >> learning curve simply isn't worth it.  From programmers.
> >> They view me as a special case who needs RPG IV
> >> and ILE because I'm the interface guy and I
> >> don't do 'day to day' stuff.
> >>
> >I know this is true but nevertheless it's unbelievable!
>
> I think this is a very perfect description of the RPG programming
world.
> The vast majority of RPG programmers are happy with the status quo and
> regard changes to the language with suspicion.  The other group are
annoyed
> that RPG isn't moving into the present fast enough.  What's IBM to do?
> Can't afford to alienate the traditionalists and can't afford the 'old
and
> proprietary closed system' image that the traditionalists
(unconsciously?)
> perpetuate.
>
> Rather than whine about it any more, I'll just say that there's little
> question that RPG IV and ILE have made my code and my working life
better.
> There are more steps to climb, but I'm up higher today than I was
yesterday.
>   --buck
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