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Joe, I think you're method would be effective. Can the before read trigger be done to actually enforce this? If someone tries to read the file outside of the I/O module will the read be denied? For example, *BEFORE cannot be associated with *READ. Thus wouldn't the application already have the data on an *AFTER *READ? And the best you could hope for is notifying the police that someone stole your horse instead of stopping the theft in the first place? I bet this method, however, would make it extremely difficult for anyone to use any existing reporting tools, etc. The problem I have with that is, once again, the iSeries will be seen as the culprit and not the methodology. And again the corporate answer will be to either replicate all the data, or move the application entirely off of the iSeries, to facilitate the reporting tools. Rob Berendt -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "Joe Pluta" <joepluta@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent by: rpg400-l-bounces+rob=dekko.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx 11/17/2003 11:14 AM Please respond to RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries <rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To "'RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries'" <rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> cc Subject RE: ALL I/O in single module was(ARGH!!! (was file open with LR)) > From: rob@xxxxxxxxx > > I agree with validity checking in one place. However I disagree about an > I/O module for it. The validity checking could be in proper setup of the > database. And I disagree that databases are designed to handle business rules. You end up writing business logic in trigger programs, which is not what they were intended to do. > For instance with constraints and/or triggers then any updates > done with any tool are checked. And there is NO leak from someone who > accessed the file without using the I/O module. Personally, I've come to embrace the idea of using both. Since triggers and referential integrity really amount to writing business logic in separate places, I prefer to combine all that logic in one I/O module around each file (or group of related files), and then exclude all access except through that module. I only make files accessible as necessary, and for those files I do have to leave open to the public, I can put a trigger on them. If the trigger senses an attempt to access the file OTHER than through the I/O module, it denies the request. Simple, clean, and all my business rules are in one piece of code. This is the best of both worlds. This also allows the easy implementation of things like row-level security and other features that DB2/400 doesn't support natively. Joe _______________________________________________ This is the RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries (RPG400-L) mailing list To post a message email: RPG400-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/rpg400-l or email: RPG400-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/rpg400-l.
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