RE: Free-Form vs Fixed Form. -- RPG400-L

Wilt,
Are you saying that you have a bigger, faster machine at work on which you
use WDSc? But at home for an occasion test just to see if it'll work, an
850Mhz CPU with 3/4Meg RAM is functional? How about using WDSc on a system
like your home PC exclusively, then tell people it runs quite happily.
You can't load _and effectively use_ an Office application (WORD, Excel, or
PowerPoint), a 5250 emulator (other than Mocha), and WDSc on a machine with
that configuration. Any productivity gains from what ever they call their
auto-complete feature is far and away diminished by the lock ups/freezes and
overall sluggishness of your machine from WDSc (or WDSCi). 
1 Gig memory is minimum. Not to be rude, anyone who tells you differently is
trying to sell you a used car with defect they are trying to cover up. Sure
it runs in less than 1Gig, yeah, that's the ticket!


-Bob Cozzi
www.RPGxTools.com
RPG xTools - Enjoy programming again.


-----Original Message-----
From: rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Wilt, Charles
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 1:08 PM
To: RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries
Subject: RE: Free-Form vs Fixed Form.

Wes,

This should really be on the WDSCi list but....

If you're truly doing modern ILE RPG IV coding then using SEU instead of
CODE/400 or WDSCi is simply wrong.

The productivity enhancements of code-assist and the outline view are by
themselves tremendous.

Yes it takes a bigger PC, but I ran WDSCi at home quite happily on an
old slot-A Athlon 850 with less than 1GB RAM (I think 512 or 768).

Force yourself to use WDSCi for a couple of weeks.  You won't go back.

Charles Wilt
--
iSeries Systems Administrator / Developer
Mitsubishi Electric Automotive America
ph: 513-573-4343
fax: 513-398-1121
  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Wes Reinhold
> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 1:46 PM
> To: 'RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries'
> Subject: RE: Free-Form vs Fixed Form.
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> Why don't you get off this tired horse and talk about 
> something worthwhile:
> Like is it really worth it to dump SEU in favor of the 'Modern
> Alternatives'?  I fully  embrace /Free, but can not see the 
> value of these
> other alternatives.  I was at COMMON last fall and got the 
> full brain wash,
> but am not convinced.
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Scott Klement
> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 1:32 PM
> To: RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries
> Subject: Re: Free-Form vs Fixed Form.
> 
> 
> > /free syntax checking in SEU is essentially non-existent in 
> v5r2.  I'm not
> > sure the syntax checker has *ever* flagged anything within a /free -
> > /end-free block.  And, believe me, I had all kinds of 
> newbie syntax errors
> > early on, but had to rely on a compile listing *ERR scan to 
> find them.
> 
> Have you found it to be better in WDSC?  I haven't.
> 
> In my experience, /FREE statements are pretty much always 
> EVAL or CALLP 
> statements.  Fixed-format statements don't validity check the 
> "extended 
> factor 2" portion of those statements, either.  The only real 
> advantage as 
> far as validity checking goes is when you're using other 
> opcodes besides 
> EVAL and CALLP... that's why it's "slightly better" for fixed 
> format stuff 
> vs. free format stuff...  because it's better for those 
> opcodes besides 
> EVAL and CALLP, which make only a small percentage of my programs.
> 
> > Not intending to beat *this* dead horse again, but, dang, 
> if we could just
> > get rid of the statement-ending semicolons!
> 
> We're not talking about how the language shoudl've been 
> designed (in this 
> thread)  This discussion is about the pros and cons of fixed 
> vs. free. 
> Can we please not go off on the tangent of telling IBM how to 
> design a 
> language that's already been designed and is already in 
> production where 
> it can't be changed?  Thanks.
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