As Charles said, you don't run SETOBJACC in an application program - it's a one-time thing best done at IPL. Once something is in memory, it is available to all jobs on the system, no matter the pool THEY are running in.

The pool for putting data resources into with SETOBJACC is, if I remember, best set up as a fixed-size, private pool (not shared) with absolutely no jobs running in it - those would have the potential of paging stuff out.

HTH
Vern

On 6/7/2010 7:29 AM, Bryce Martin wrote:
Thanks for the link Kurt. Learn something new everyday.

So I'm guessing that the file gets loaded into the pool at application
startup the first time it is run.... anybody know if that significantly
impacts the program's load time? I would think those, but that you should
gain that back during the processing.


Thanks
Bryce Martin
Programmer/Analyst I
570-546-4777



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Whoops, meant to include a couple links in my response.

For Bryce, SETOBJACC:
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=nas1dc0a2297bdaefddb86256d6c0069907f


And the document I'm looking at in regard to OVRDBF SEQONLY (which likely
has the answer to my questions, but I may not be reading it right).
https://www-912.ibm.com/s_dir/slkbase.NSF/1ac66549a21402188625680b0002037e/d6738e1cd37e1f33862565c2007cef79?OpenDocument


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Not quite right...

It doesn't matter if you use SQL or RPG RLA to read or write the file.

What matters is if you use SQL DDL or DDS to create the file in the first
place.

HTH,
Charles

On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Luis Rodriguez<luisro58@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
You are right, SQL checks during Writes, RPG native I/O checks during
reads.
I like to refer people to this nice Dan Cruikshank paper: "Modernizing
Database Access The Madness Behind the Methods ",. You can find it at:


http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/resources/systems_i_software_db2_pdf_Performance_DDS_SQL.pdf

HTH,

Luis Rodriguez
IBM Certified Systems Expert - eServer i5 iSeries


On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Bryce Martin<BMartin@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
I'm not sure what SETOBJACC is or what effect it has on reading a
file...
but....

Doesn't RPGLE do its checks on Read as opposed to SQL that does checks
on
Write? So as I've heard it the general idea goes that reading with SQL
should be faster than RPGLE but writing would be the other way around.
So
why not write and SQL to read the data and only the fields you need
(which
is proven to be faster than specifying SELECT * FROM)? You can fetch
more
than one row at a time I do believe and I think would perform better
than
a single record by record read using native I/O.

Then again, if I have the idea of when the i/o checks happen respective
to
read vs. write then everything I said above is for naught!


Thanks
Bryce Martin
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Hi all,

Lately I've been dealing with a new client that has a high volume of
data
for us to process, so I've been looking at various ways to get things
moving a little faster.

I believe I've successfully implemented the use of SETOBJACC with the
help
of Chuck Pence& Mark Waterbury (thanks guys).

Now, this may be grasping at straws, but in a high data volume
situation,
should I see any benefit in restricting the fields in a LF to only the
fields used by the program? (In essence, going from record length of
438
to 138.) My brain says, "yes," but the logic under-the-covers may not
match the logic my brain uses to come to its conclusion.

I'm also curious about RPG blocking. This question mainly goes out to
people using file encapsulation service programs, but is obviously open
to
anyone to answer. I have a file wrapped up in a service program. This
service program pretty much handles all I/O operations for the file.
Now,
if all I want to do is loop through the file, it's not going to block
read
because it has operations such as READE in the service program. I wish
block-reading would be determined at run-time (again, a wish without a
full understanding of the compiler does its thing). I'm curious how
people have circumvented this limitation?

Thanks,
Kurt Anderson
Sr. Programmer/Analyst
CustomCall Data Systems
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