RE: I guess I don't know dates

The DATFMT keyword affects the data and how it is normally displayed, in the same manner as the COLHDG and TEXT attributes. In other words, not at all. These keywords have an effect on DDS-generated fields, and on Query/400-based displays.
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Thomas Garvey <tgarvey@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I understand that the "internal" value of a date field is actually a Lilian
value, but if stored in two different fields with two different formats
defined (say *MDY and *ISO), they should display in those formats, right?
They do not. They all display as *MDY, regardless of the DATFMT keyword
used in the DDS for the PF. What else would the DATFMT keyword be used for
on a date data type. It MUST be to cause the field's value to be displayed
in the designated format. Am I crazy?

See below, from interactive SQL.

Date Date Date Date Date Date Date Date
Date Date Date Date Date
USA Slash ISO Slash EUR Perd MDY Slsh MDY Dash MDY Perd MDY Comm MDY
None YMD Slsh YMD Dash YMD Perd YMD Comm YMD None
12/11/08 12/11/08 12/11/08 12/11/08 12/11/08 12/11/08 12/11/08
12/11/08 12/11/08 12/11/08 12/11/08 12/11/08 12/11/08
07/02/08 07/02/08 07/02/08 07/02/08 07/02/08 07/02/08 07/02/08
07/02/08 07/02/08 07/02/08 07/02/08 07/02/08 07/02/08
02/16/07 02/16/07 02/16/07 02/16/07 02/16/07 02/16/07 02/16/07
02/16/07 02/16/07 02/16/07 02/16/07 02/16/07 02/16/07
09/26/06 09/26/06 09/26/06 09/26/06 09/26/06 09/26/06 09/26/06
09/26/06 09/26/06 09/26/06 09/26/06 09/26/06 09/26/06
09/24/07 09/24/07 09/24/07 09/24/07 09/24/07 09/24/07 09/24/07
09/24/07 09/24/07 09/24/07 09/24/07 09/24/07 09/24/07
01/30/09 01/30/09 01/30/09 01/30/09 01/30/09 01/30/09 01/30/09
01/30/09 01/30/09 01/30/09 01/30/09 01/30/09 01/30/09
12/19/08 12/19/08 12/19/08 12/19/08 12/19/08 12/19/08 12/19/08
12/19/08 12/19/08 12/19/08 12/19/08 12/19/08 12/19/08

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Alan Campin
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 12:17 PM
To: RPG programming on the IBM i / System i
Subject: Re: I guess I don't know dates

Assuming you are displaying using the debugger, my guess would be that the
debugger just shows dates in the *MDY format by default. There might be some
kind of parameter that effects it.

On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Alan Shore <ashore@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Tom
This is the way that I understand date fields to work, hopefully someone

will point out the error of my ways.

A date field will hold the same value for the same date (number of
days since a particular date), irrespective of the format (*MDY, *YMD,
*USA etc. with or without separators) The date format is to be used ONLY

when you want to display that date (on a screen, report etc.) When you say "
when these values are then moved into the fields as defined in the DDS PF
(definition example shown below), they all get *MDY. "

That is probably due to what the system/job parameter is set for

Alan Shore
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-----Original Message-----
From: rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas Garvey
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 12:14 PM
To: rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: I guess I don't know dates

I'm perplexed by something that must be very simple, yet I must be

ignorant.

I can't get date data type fields populated in a PF correctly.

I have a DDS physical file with date data type fields defined with various

date formats (*USA, *ISO, *MDY, *JUL, etc.). The fields that permit use of
the DATSEP parameter do have it specified.

This file is populated (by RPGLE program X) from another file with numeric

values in the form of YYYYMMDD. Program X has stand alone date data type
fields defined with each of the various formats and separators (example
below).

d DateMDY s d datfmt(*MDY ) mm/dd/yy d
DateMDYSlsh s d datfmt(*MDY/) mm/dd/yy d
DateMDYDash s d datfmt(*MDY-) mm-dd-yy d
DateMDYPerd s d datfmt(*MDY.) mm.dd.yy d
DateMDYComm s d datfmt(*MDY,) mm,dd,yy d
DateMDYAmph s d datfmt(*MDY&) mm dd yy d DateDMY

s d datfmt(*DMY) dd/mm/yy d DateDMYSlsh s

d datfmt(*DMY/) dd/mm/yy d DateDMYDash s d
datfmt(*DMY-) dd-mm-yy d DateDMYPerd s d
datfmt(*DMY.) dd.mm.yy d DateDMYComm s d
datfmt(*DMY,) dd,mm,yy d DateDMYAmph s d
datfmt(*DMY&) dd mm yy d DateYMD s d
datfmt(*YMD) yy/mm/dd d DateYMDSlsh s d
datfmt(*YMD/) yy/mm/dd d DateYMDDash s d
datfmt(*YMD-) yy-mm-dd d DateYMDPerd s d
datfmt(*YMD.) yy.mm.dd d DateYMDComm s d
datfmt(*YMD,) yy,mm,dd d DateYMDAmph s d
datfmt(*YMD&) yy mm dd d DateJUL s d
datfmt(*JUL) yy/ddd d DateJULSlsh s d
datfmt(*JUL/) yy/ddd d DateJULDash s d
datfmt(*JUL-) yy-ddd d DateJULPerd s d
datfmt(*JUL.) yy.ddd d DateJULComm s d
datfmt(*JUL,) yy,ddd d DateJULAmph s d
datfmt(*JUL&) yy ddd d DateISO s d
datfmt(*ISO) yyyy-mm-dd d DateISODash s d
datfmt(*ISO-) yyyy-mm-dd d DateUSA s d
datfmt(*USA) mm/dd/yyyy d DateUSASlsh s d
datfmt(*USA/) mm/dd/yyyy d DateEUR s d
datfmt(*EUR) dd.mm.yyyy d DateEURPerd s d
datfmt(*EUR.) dd.mm.yyyy d DateJIS s d
datfmt(*JIS) yyyy-mm-dd d DateJISDash s d
datfmt(*JIS-) yyyy-mm-dd

So, my program X logic moves the numeric value (in YYYYMMDD format) into

the DateISO field (defined as *ISO) and then moves the DateISO into each of
the stand alone fields shown above. The resulting values are all correct as
defined. That is, they contain exactly what they should contain (the same
date value, but in the field's format and separator). This is verified
using debugger.

However, when these values are then moved into the fields as defined in

the DDS PF (definition example shown below), they all get *MDY. Doesn't
matter how they are defined in the DDS.

A DUSASLSH L DATFMT(*USA) A

COLHDG('Date' 'USA Slash') A DISODASH L
DATFMT(*ISO) A COLHDG('Date' 'ISO
Dash') A DEURPERD L DATFMT(*EUR) A

COLHDG('Date' 'EUR Perd') A DMDYSLSH L
DATFMT(*MDY) A DATSEP('/') A

COLHDG('Date' 'MDY Slsh') A DMDYDASH L
DATFMT(*MDY) A DATSEP('-') A

COLHDG('Date' 'MDY Dash') A DMDYPERD L
DATFMT(*MDY) A DATSEP('.') A

COLHDG('Date' 'MDY Perd') A DMDYCOMM L
DATFMT(*MDY) A DATSEP(',') A

COLHDG('Date' 'MDY Comm') A DMDYNONE L
DATFMT(*MDY) A DATSEP(' ')

What is up with that? What am I ignorant of? What am I missing?
There is no DATFMT specification in any H spec. The system's default
format
(QDATFMT) is MDY but I can't believe that is controling here.
I always thought moving a date data type field to another date data type

field simply changes the format of the value.

Straighten me out here, please.

Tom Garvey

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