Hi Nathan,

Yes, convert the column(s) to VARCHAR FOR BIT DATA, so the content is
treated as a binary string (uses CCSID 65535). Length 16 should be fine if
the raw data was that length or shorter. That is very likely one of your
issues. IIRC, you want to define encoded columns in multiples of 16 bytes
long when using AES encryption.

If you use a DDS definition for the table instead of SQL DDL, the field
must be a fixed or varying length character field with CCSID(65535)
specified.

The SQL DDL choices for a data type to store encrypted content are all
binary ones: BINARY, VARBINARY, CHAR FOR BIT DATA, VARCHAR FOR BIT DATA,
BLOB.

Initially, try applying the field procedure to an empty copy of the table,
to eliminate the extra work / failure risk of encrypting data. Once that
works, then try applying the field procedure to a copy of the table with
rows of data containing non-null values to encrypt.

Townsend may well have implemented something special to encrypt a zoned or
packed decimal and store it in a zoned or packed decimal, but I doubt that
would be standard AES encryption, and I don't think that would it be as
secure, because the hex values allowed to be stored in a zoned or packed
decimal are a much more limited set of values.

If you get stuck with more issues, post the details here and I should be
able to help.

Vernon's posts illustrate additional concerns when consuming the encrypted
data. Some concerns could result in incorrect functional behavior, and
some concerns are for the potential of dramatic, negative performance
impact. Some applications may experience functional and performance
issues, that could easily be related to the central change that you're now
accessing encoded data values instead of non-encoded, raw values. The
sorted order of encoded values changes the behavior of keyed RPG operations
like SETLL, SETGT, etc.. Using SQL alleviates some of that, but be on the
lookout for negative performance impact even using SQL. I ran some tests
to see if SQL was smart enough to automatically encrypt search criteria
that was used in a WHERE clause predicate against an encrypted, field
procedure column, and it was smart enough to do that, but is dependent on
the setting of QAQQINI query option FIELDPROC_ENCODED COMPARISON, read this
-
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/ssw_ibm_i_74/rzajq/rzajqfieldprocsexamples.htm
.
The query optimizer will rewrite the query, avoiding a full table scan that
would otherwise decode every row.

As Vernon mentions, I can see how an OA handler program might help with
dealing with RPG's shortcomings with processing encoded data. But, I've
never built an OA program, nor have I spent many brain cycles thinking
about leveraging them for encryption. I'm not very involved with our
company's consumption of encoded data.

Mike

On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 9:21 AM Nathan Hughes <nathan.hughes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Mike,

Thanks for all that information, I'll certainly put it to use, and start
reading up on those topics/documents.
I read the same about SQL in this FieldProc program, and I'm not using
any, or any external calls that use them. I'm simply trying to encrypt 2
different types of columns with the IBM i Cryptographic Services APIs,
which should not be using SQL. So what you're saying is that I'll need to
convert them to VARCHAR before the encryption?
Speaking of Townsend, they have several articles and videos on the topic
of FieldProcs...and they claim that you can encrypt numerics using their
software, so I'm sure it can be done.

Thanks,
Nathan Hughes
Software Developer


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-----Original Message-----
From: RPG400-L <rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Vernon
Hamberg
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 3:06 PM
To: RPG programming on IBM i <rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: FieldProc Error - column has returned invalid data on a Zoned
Numeric column

Hi Mike

Thanks for the clarification. It leaves me with a question, does a field
have to be non-numeric in order for a FIELDPROC to work correctly.

This goes back to the reason I was asked to write that OA handler. IBM had
suggested it to Patrick Townsend when the order of records returned was
incorrect when one of the key fields had a FIELDPROC on it. In a simplistic
way, it seems that SQL does the decryption on the field, then does the sort
on the decrypted values. I believe I can describe RPG's process as reading
the file in the key order, but it is reading it with encrypted values. Then
it decrypts the values.

So I wonder if, in your case, RPG is pulling the encrypted value into a
buffer or some such where that field is defined as numeric - hence the
message. And using SQL instead of RLA might get the decryption done first.
This does seem to fit the scenario you describe.

But I might be off somewhere, so verify if you can, maybe using SQL for IO.

Good luck and stay well!
Vern

On 3/24/2020 7:45 AM, Mike Jones wrote:
Hi Vernon,

It means field procedure programs can't run SQL statements. It also
means field procedure programs can't call other commands or programs
that run SQL statements. This even applies to calling IBM commands and
programs.

IBM's V7R3 SQL Reference manual page 1175, for the CREATE TABLE
statements for the FIELDPROC attribute says "Designates an
external-program-name as the field procedure exit routine for the
column. It must be an ILE program that does not contain SQL. It cannot
be a service program."

I tried to make a field procedure program that would largely
self-deploy, where it would create a key store file (via IBM's API),
and generate / populate it with an encryption key, but calling the API
to create a key store file would not run. When I looked into why, it
was because IBM's API to create a key store file runs SQL, and I found
documentation that you can't do that.

I don't know why it is like that, just that it is.

Perhaps using an Open Access handler is a workaround, I don't know.

Those were my findings at the V7R3 level. I've not tried it on V7R4.

Mike

On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 9:39 PM Vernon Hamberg
<vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Mike - I'm not sure exactly what your statement means. If you mean
that the programs themselves can't have embedded SQL, that's
something I don't know.

Now what I do know is that if a key field has a FIELDPROC added to
it, that the resulting order in RPG is probably incorrect. I wrote an
Open Access handler to turn all DISK IO in RPG into SQL statements -
only change in the RPG is to add the handler to the F-spec. I wrote
this for Townsend Security (this was publicly announced, so no
secrets being revealed here), I believe there is a relationship now
with Syncsort, if anyone has a need for this - I'm not working for
either company, so this is not a <verndor option>!!

Vern

On 3/23/2020 11:00 PM, Mike Jones wrote:
Nathan

Field proc programs don't yet allow the use of any SQL. They also
don't yet support calling a program or command that directly or
indirectly runs SQL statements. Example: you can't call IBM's API
to create a key store file, from inside a field procedure program,
because that API runs SQL in its plumbing.

I've gotten all that encryption field procedure stuff to work well,
but i was a PITA getting it all to work. I utilized code from at
least a
handful
of sample programs.

- AES 256-bit encryption
- DEKs (data encryption keys) stored in key store files.
- Using KEKs (key encrypting keys) to encrypt the DEKs (data
encryption
keys), also stored in key store files.
- Using master keys to encrypt the key store files.
- Using tokens with the encryption APIs so the keys can't be
retrieved
even under debug.

If you're trying to take a zoned decimal number, encrypt it, and
store it in the database, you need to store the result in:

- A CHAR or VARCHAR column with the FOR BIT DATA attribute
applied,
which uses CCSID 65535.
- A BINARY column
- A VARBINARY column
- A BLOB column
- Or the DDS file defined equivalent of one of the above.

The encrypted data is a binary string that requires one of those
data
types
to store the results. Encrypted data doesn't conform to the set of
hex
values that are allowable for storage in a zoned or packed decimal
column,
Get the IBM Redbook "IBM System i Security: Protecting i5/OS Data
with Encryption". In the July 2008 version of that book, see
chapter 7 "Database Considerations", section 7.2, pages 78 and 79 in
particular,
talk
about storage requirements of the encrypted data.

Another great PDF book is "Protecting IBM i data with encryption" by
Kent Milligan and Beth Hagemeister (March 2014). Read pages 31
through 33 for storage requirements.

When you apply the field procedure to a column (ALTER TABLE ALTER
COLUMN),
it calls the field procedure to encrypt that column for ALL rows of
the table.
When you drop a field procedure from a column (ALTER TABLE ALTER
COLUMN), it calls the field procedure to decrypt that column for ALL
rows of the table.

I imagine a field procedure could be used for a non-encryption
purpose, although I've not tried that (no use case comes to mind at
the moment).
Assuming that is allowed, a field procedure that returns zoned
decimal
data
for storage in a zoned decimal column is fine to do, but not with
encrypted
data.

HTH,

Mike

On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 4:48 PM Vernon Hamberg
<vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

wrote:

Nathan

Is the numeric column in question a key of the file? Are you using
native record-level access? If either, then RPG might give you
problems.
I thought it was only with keyed columns, but maybe not.

You might try using SQL to process the file.

Vern

On 3/23/2020 3:26 PM, Nathan Hughes wrote:
First I want to apologize for my ignorance in RPGLE...we typically
don't
use this programming language, but have to for FieldProc purposes.
I've researched this issue for a couple weeks now, and cannot find
a
resolution.
I'm currently trying to write a field procedure program. I have
taken
the
IBM RPGLE example (
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),
and started to modify it to work for us.
Here is the table that was created for testing purposes:
********** Beginning of data *************************************
A R REC
A ECNUM 16S 0 COLHDG('NUMBER')
A ALIAS(EC_NUMBER)
A ECALPHA 32A COLHDG('ALPHA')
A ALIAS(EC_ALPHA)
************* End of data ****************************************
The program from the link above allows for several SQL types,
clob,
varchar, char, blob, etc., but I needed to add zoned numeric. To
begin,
I
studied and stepped through the program to see what it was doing,
and thought I had a good understanding of how it worked. I then
started
adding
what appeared as necessary for the SQL_TYP_ZONED (488).
When I send the 'ALTER TABLE' command and set the FieldProc
program on
a
column, the first call is to Register(function code: 8), the next
is Encode(function code: 0) to encode the values in said column.
I set a breakpoint at the end of the program, and evaluated the
parameters when setting the FieldProc on a VARCHAR and ZONED
NUMERIC columns, and besides being different data types all appears
correct, but the ZONED NUMERIC column abruptly stops with the error
below after the register call.
Message ID . . . . . . : SQL0685
Date sent . . . . . . : 03/18/20 Time sent . . . . . . : 16:17:04

Message . . . . : Field procedure on column ECNUM has returned
invalid
data.
Cause . . . . . : Field procedure on column ECNUM has returned
invalid
data.
Recovery . . . : Change the field procedure to return valid data.

Thank you in advance for any help you can give on this.

Thanks,
Nathan Hughes
Software Developer

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