Re: IBM i 7.6 Development tools

The web developer doesn't need to know anything about the IBM i, he can
work in a shared directory, using his PC tolls.
All he has to do in the HTML for the i is to set the place holders for the
RPG program to feed the data.

El mié, 23 de abr de 2025, 11:32, Jim Oberholtzer <
midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> escribió:

Raul:

That’s not really the case. Most web developers have no idea how to
manage in an IBM i environment, only what they see on the so called cloud
platforms. They don’t have a clue how AWS manages its systems, but they
use the APIs constantly. Toss a real CGI program at them and they freak
out about how complicated it is.

Jack’s approach is the one I choose, create APIs that expose only what you
want exposed, and allow the POWER system to maintain the model and
controller. Let the view does what it does.

Recently at church I had a young fellow ask me about getting into web
development saying he wanted to "learn to code". When it was
explained that “coding” is much more than HTML, and his morified reaction
to it, I guided him over to graphic design with an interactive emphasis
(our colleges here provide that track). If I had said RPG to him he
most likely would have fainted……


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On Apr 23, 2025, at 9:22 AM, Raul Alberto Jager Weiler <

raul.jager@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

It is easier to program directly for the web rather than doing the APIs
A tool like CGIDEV2 isolates the web part from the RPG logic, so the web
developer can so his job in a team with the RPG developer.
The web developer does not need to learn IBM i, but the RPG neds to

learn a

little web.
The result will be outstanding.

El mié, 23 de abr de 2025, 11:15, Jack Woehr via RPG400-L <
rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>

escribió:

Sounds like a use case for the i developers to write APIs to be called

by

the web developers with no IBM i experience.

Then the IBM i just becomes one more database in the enterprise that
delivers up its data via APIs.

Serendipity!

See

https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/integrated-web-services-ibm-i-web-services-made-easy

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Subject: Re: IBM i 7.6 Development tools

I don't believe they have tried that. In my current role, I'm not
programming the applications (another team). Most of the new web
content is being added by a web development team that has no
experiencing on the i. While the base app is still maintained by the i
developers.

Gavin.



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