I was extending the realm of your complaint to other environments. My point had to do with the use of plugins that have no real functionality. Navigator is another app that is built around the idea of adding plugins, just as Eclipse is. The fact that IBM in another context behaves the same as your vendor is to say that this practice is probably ubiquitous. "Everybody" seems willing to use something for market share that is often just the emperor with his new birthday suit. All it'd take is a little tiny Java front end that does a native call. This is why this happens, IMO - it's easy, low-cost, and looks good in marketing-ese.

Another IBM thing that will have some of the same issues is the new Virtualization Engine and its monitoring apps, where there may be opportunities for vendors to plug their stuff into it, for registering the health of disparate systems.

Anyway!

Cheers
Vern

At 07:48 AM 8/18/2004, you wrote:
Vern,
iSeries Navigator is not an IDE. Now if IBM started putting hooks into it from WDSC and not fully putting it into WDSC, then that would be an issue to me.


I would not be surprised if IBM re-did Navigator so that it was based on the Eclipse 3.0 client framework. Some of their other products are already headed in this direction. To me this would be a big step in the right direction. You could install one set of 'base code' and then add in the stuff(plug-ins) that you need. Need admin control, install this plug-in(s). Need an IDE, install this plug-in(s). True Plug and Play.. :-)

-- Scott J.

Vern Hamberg wrote:
IBM does it, too. In iSeries Navigator, you can get a plugin for ordering PTFs. Hooray! Except it does nothing but bring you to the IBM site for ordering PTFs. Dud!
Vern
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