Re: New Release? -- WDSCI-L


                Hey All,

I have been reading the responses to the WDSC 7.0 features being pushed to AE 
and I cant agree more. I myself have been championing this tool for over 2 
years to all my developer friends and co-workers saying its the future and 
IBM's Developer Roadmap blah blah blah. Now they pull this stunt, making IS 
departments pay to have the RPG features in the tool as well as designing 
screens. Print files havent been mentioned but I would hope they have finished 
that part but who knows. IBM has really put a dagger in the heart of all of us 
trying to promote the tool with this move. There is no way I can justify paying 
thousands of dollars per developer (I assume the cost is per seat license) to 
design screens when SDA is free.

IBM, Im sorry but this sucks!!!

Don Nitke
Sr. P/A Friedman Corp.

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                                From: Dave Shaw <daveshaw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 5:29 AM
To: wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] New Release? 

I didn't miss it - just didn't mention it, since that's already been mentioned 
on the list. Since my employer is still happily running Win 2K on many of our 
machines, I don't expect to be forced off XP to Vista anytime soon. We stay 
much more current on OS/400 releases.

I'm in a shop with 200+ developers, and there's at most 15 of us trying to use 
WDSCi. It took me 3 years to talk them into replacing my obsolescent (2001 
vintage) laptop with one capable of running it well, and even then they 
quibbled over the couple hundred dollars extra for a 'high-end' machine rather 
than our 'standard' purchase. Most of the people here are unconvinced that 
WDSCi is enough better than green screen to be worth the learning curve even 
with us already owning it! How do we convince management that it's worth buying 
upgrades for everyone, to the tune of close on a million bucks, just for the 
screen and print file designer, when we can't get them to pay for training on 
it or upgrade hardware so we can use it?

Note that we still have one developer here who brags about using the 
programmer's menu because he never bothered to learn PDM! He had the nerve to 
ask me once how I could call CODE better than SEU when I mentioned that users 
had to have unique STRCODE user spaces and the easiest way was to have unique 
*CURLIBs. This is the mindset that the more forward-thinking of us are 
contending with here. IBM isn't making it easier for us to change that with 
things like dropping CODE and making its replacement exorbitantly expensive.

Dave Shaw
Mohawk Industries

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Murvin" 
To: "Websphere Development Studio Client for iSeries" 
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 6:29 PM
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] New Release?

You missed the part where CODE will not be ported to any future 
Windows operating systems. Does this include Vista? If so, the CODE 
designer may not last as long as one might think.

The replacement for the CODE designer should be in the standard 
edition for WDSCi. What is the full Microsoft Visual Studio going 
for now versus how much they want for the Advanced version of 
WDSCi? (Not that I want to convert to the dark side, but the 
Advanced version is way too much for my one person shop just to get 
the new screen designer.)