Re: Web page tutorial in wdsc

[Vernon Hamberg <vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Dennis

Thanks for the several thoughts from someone who's been there - 
responses inline

Vern

At 12:20 PM 10/24/2007, you wrote:

> > instead of embedding that stuff everywhere in the HTML
> > code - easier to maintain, too. They say!
> It absolutely makes it easier to maintain!  But I would recommend making
> sure you do not use any sort of embedded css, either within the span/div
> tags or at the top of the page.  Make all style sheets external and you
> save yourself the headache.


LOL - tongue in cheek is so hard to display in emails! Actually I see 
the benefits for maintenance - that www.csszengarden.com site is 
amazing - same exact content - the only difference is style sheets - 
wow! Wait! I had not mentioned that one - probably because I'd not 
found it yet!

I feel and must sound like a new convert - heh!

> > Also, as is said, tables are for tabular data, not for organization of a
> page.
> Amen brother!
>
> > It seems that hardly any of the wysiwyg editors work in this new regime
> -
> > WDSC uses tables - certainly MS' InterDev does, and probably FrontPage
> and
> > DreamWeaver -
> Can't speak for the others but Dreamweaver 8 has plenty of good css
> support and is set up so that you can do your layouts sans tables.  And
> from what I hear CS3 takes it a step further with css templates already
> setup, i.e. 3-column pages, rounded corners, etc. I wish I had the cash to
> upgrade....

I have not tried any of these - have seen hints of what you say about 
DW8. The hard-core developers tend to eschew the use of any editors - 
as does my oh-so-young colleague. He says just write the stuff, then 
test it in a browser, then make changes. He's trying UltraEdit - I'm 
using TextPad mostly - works well for me so far. The only thing I'd 
like more is auto-complete - UltraEdit might have it. Esp. for ASP.

> > and use a browser like FireFox to test your work, then adjust.
> Just my 2 cents but I find it easier to code for IE and adjust for
> firefox.

You input is helpful here - my colleague says he test his stuff on IE 
6 and up, and Firefox and Opera and something else - forgot what he 
said today. Using the IE Tab addon for Firefox lets me see what 
things look like in that - not sure which version it is. But you 
don't see anything in FireBug when you use that - sigh!

But I assume you code for the more problematic IE first. There ARE 
some taking the plunge into full compliance - I don't know all what 
that means yet - so much to learn.

> > I'm just beginning - but I'm intrigued and moving forward, I hope.
> Sounds like you've jumped it feet first and are doing great!  Keep going
> you'll love it!  =)

Don't know if you can tell - I'm having too much fun! =))