Re: EGL vs. Java

[Joe Pluta <joepluta@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Adam Glauser wrote:
> My point is that I don't think "because it is proprietary it is 
> flexible" is a good argument.  I can just as easily say "because it is 
> proprietary it could be discontinued at any time".  VARPG comes to mind 
> - though I don't know enough about its history to know if it is a 
> perfect example.
>   
Normally I'd let this slide, and I will if you choose to reiterate your 
points, but I thought I specifically addressed both those issues.  
First, the evolution of EGL has been much faster than most large-scale 
open source projects.  There's an inertia that takes over OS when it 
reaches a certain critical mass.  As another perfect example, with the 
RPG editor, you can easily open a second editable pane into the same 
source member.  They've been fighting about that for years in Eclipse, 
and they still don't have it for Java.  So George's LPEX team was indeed 
faster and more flexible than the entire Eclipse community.

You'll see that even more with the new release of EGL; they're light 
years beyond just about any other framework out there for Web 2.0 stuff.

As for the second point, comparing VARPG to EGL is comparing apples to 
aircraft carriers.  VARPG is a niche implementation of a niche language 
(and I say that with love in my heart) with a relatively tiny number of 
users (basically, bleeding edge midrange developers with big PCs who 
needed thick client code and didn't want to use VB).  EGL, on the other 
hand, is a much larger cross-platform community, spanning mainframe, 
midrange and web application developers.

Anyway, we've gotten into opinions, so I'll let you rebut if you choose 
and then drop it.

Joe