Even when I pick "Design Screens" and add the Subfile/Control formats. The subfile is NOT shown inside the Window! WTF?!?!? I will have to be careful NOT to show this in my presentation! <LOL>

Back to Stable SDA, for designing this window subfile. At least it works there!

I wish there was a simple way to toggle between opening in DDS Designer & LPEX. Yes, I know about the File association to say open up with the DDS Designer. But, that is global.
Window>Preferences>General>Editors>File Associations> I have DSPF to default to open with Screen Designer (DEFAULT).

Yeah, I click on the source table often for quick edits. But sometimes, it is nice to edit with good old LPEX.


-Ken Killian-

-----Original Message-----
From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tarr, Kenneth
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 9:17 AM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for System i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] DDS Designer Window subfile

I have also experienced this behavior...

There are three tabs at the bottom of the design window, "Design", "Source" and "Preview". Design is the area you actually work on. As noted below, you can only see one item at a time, so you can only look at the Subfile Control or the Subfile record. Source allows you to look at the source. You can work on edit changes here as well. Preview is where you can view the screens together, so here you should be able to view both the Subfile Control and Subfile records together. Only difference is that you can't make any edit changes. You would have to go back to the Design tab to do that.

For me the problem is that you have to go back and forth between the two to make sure you're not overlapping any fields. If I remember, CODE Designer was much more flexible on this. So in my view, I believe there still is some desired functionality that was in CODE Designer that's not in DDS Designer. And if I recall right, CODE Designer was intuitive enough to know when you placed something on the screen as to which one it belonged to. It also did a better job of edit checking on the fly; that is, knowing if a name was already in use.

I'm not totally knocking DDS Designer; it does have some features unique to itself that makes it easier to work on some scenarios. But I believe it sets back development a bit when some of the nice features of CODE Designer didn't make their way to this one.

...and unfortunately, no one here has a copy of CODE anymore...yet it's funny to note RDi still shows it in the "Open with" list...

-----Original Message-----
From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave Shaw
Sent: October 10, 2013 08:01 AM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for System i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] DDS Designer Window subfile

Ken,

I see what you mean - on 9.0.0.1, Design Screens only shows either the CONTROL or the SUBFILE record, but not both.  I checked it in CODE Designer (yep, still got the relic loaded), and it works as expected.

 
Dave Shaw


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From: Ken Killian <kkillian@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for System i & iSeries <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 8:35 AM
Subject: [WDSCI-L] DDS Designer Window subfile


Hi,

Using SDA for a subfile, window. I see the subfile inside the window! <cool>

But, using the DDS Designer, the subfile is NOT placed in the window! Yikes!

Am I missing something?

Here is extremely simple code to verify this:

A                                      DSPSIZ(24 80 *NORMAL) 
A          R SUBFILE                  SFL                   
A            OPT            1A  O  3  2                     
A            TEXT          20A  O  3  5                     
A          R CONTROL                  SFLCTL(SUBFILE)       
A                                      SFLDSP               
A                                      SFLSIZ(  24)         
A                                      SFLPAG(0005)         
A                                      WINDOW(2 2 15 30)     
A                                  2  1'opt'                 
A                                  2  6'text'               

Pardon this dumb down example. But it displays properly inside SDA. Inside the DDS Designer the subfile is NOT shown in a window! What is the point of having a Visual Designer, when SDA works. But Ration Developer cannot display window!

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