Re: How to present large datasets on the Web? -- WEB400

At 09:45 PM 12/2/02, you wrote:

> Um, nobody looks at 5000 records at a shot, do they?

yes they do...
In some pages is is 20 records at a time (like any search engine returns the
1st page as 1 of 2,000,000)

Yes, this I expect to see.  And a 20 (or 50, or 100) records at a time,
this is efficient and effective.  5000 records on one page seems wrong, in
the general case.

In some I return the whole set in html, usually not more than a minute or 2
to load.

Why?  Why not provide a page at a time?  This seems wasteful.  I have my
google preferences set to return 100 at a shot, and I find that I will look
through 100, or even 200 links, but 5000?  No way.  And why wait two
minutes to see a screen.  On the iSeries, my customers expect sub-second
response.  Not multi minute response.

Also provide a link to save the whole set in a .csv file from the ifs. They
can use it in Excel.

Fine, I do this, too.  But I can still provide a link to all the data, yet
display one page at a time to the browser.

jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rich Duzenbury" <rduz@westernmidrange.com>
To: <web400@midrange.com>
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 7:14 PM
Subject: Re: [WEB400] How to present large datasets on the Web?


> So.  Has anyone tried to routinely display a list that contains five or
ten
> >thousand entries on the web?  What architectural approach did you take?
> >   --buck
>
> Um, nobody looks at 5000 records at a shot, do they?
>
> You need to invent a subfile mechanism - You know - 'get the next page of
> records', 'get the previous page of records', and so on.  Have your java
> person call your program and give it a selected page number as a
> parameter.  Your RPG program locates that page of records and returns it.
>
> It would even be fun to add filtering and sorting capabilities - You know,
> longest telephone calls, highest cost calls, and so forth.  Resequence the
> display by number dialed.
>
>
>
> Regards,
> Rich
>

Regards,
Rich