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[Evan Harris <spanner@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Brad

Good to see you are still dealing in emotional responses and generalizations :)

> When does something become "widely available"?  Does it
> have to come from IBM, or a 3rd party, or a well-known
> organization?  Or can it come from Aaron?  If it does, will
> we support and his work him or would we rather direct
> people to IBM or a big 3rd party vendor that we drink with
> at COMMON every year?

When something like, for example, CPAN exists

> That theory just don't hold water... sorry.  And if it
> does, it's because of the lack of support of the little guy
> and self-bashing in our group that we don't have those
> types of libraries available.

It's not a theory. CPAN exists, I've used it.

> Who wants to put forth the effort, make source available
> only to have it criticized because:

Whatever. I didn't criticize anything, I pointed out a flaw in your comparison.

> "Its only RPG" or
> "You whould use DOW instead of DOU" or
> "You should just use Perl anyway" or
> Having no one contribute and everyone just "take take take"
> and ask a million questions or
> when someone asks for something no one points them to that
> source, and instead point them to some other product or the
> IBM manuals.

You are putting words into my mouth. I have no issue with people using RPG 
CGI, or anything on the AS/400, but some people want to use other stuff. 
Get over it.

> This community and the Perl/Python community are two
> complete different animals.  Each with the good points,
> each with the bad.  They're not even comparable.

I did not compare the communities, I commented on your dismissal of Hans 
comment regarding "3 lines of code" and your misleading attempt to compare 
the ability to write functions with the actual existence and availability 
of those functions in other languages. You tried to imply that the ability 
to create the functions in RPG provided the same level of productivity 
and/or capability in the language as the fact that other languages have 
widely available function repositories where you can search and download an 
already existing function for a general business problem.

Knew I should have kept my mouth shut :)

Regards
Evan Harris