Re: Mozilla vs. IE was-> RE: [WEB400] Re: New IE security advice f rom Microsoft

[Joel Cochran <jrc@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Aaron, except for testing on my WinDoze box I run Firebird exclusively
as my browser on my Linux Desktop and I've never had a problem with the
<span></span> tags, and I develop with them a lot.

The problems I have had with Firebird relate to java-x plugins, like
Flash... I can't get them to install.  Try surfing the Infocenter that
way some time... ugh...

And yes, I love the tabs in Firebird... I have 4 home pages!

Ciao,

Joel
http://www.rpgnext.com

On Mon, 2004-02-02 at 20:30, Bartell, Aaron L. (TC) wrote:
> I am also using Mozilla/Firebird for 75% of my browsing.  JavaScript
> debugging has never been better!
> 
> The thing that will keep IE the front runner is that Mozilla doesn't come
> configured to view yesterday's web pages.  People aren't coding to meet
> Mozilla (say W3C) standards.  I was doing some web programming over the
> weekend and for whatever reason Mozilla doesn't like the <span> tag.  I
> don't know if I was implementing it wrong or what, but it worked in IE and
> not in Mozilla and that made for a frustrating afternoon. 
> 
> The other thing is that Mozilla doesn't work with Microsoft's Sharepoint
> software (I constantly get prompted to bring up a browser that is IE 5.0 or
> greater), and I am sure there are many other "special feature" sites that
> Microsoft has plugins for that Mozilla doesn't account for.
> 
> Right now IE works on _every_ site I go to.  Mozilla works good on about
> %75.  Very annoying to switch back and forth.
> 
> I must say that I _love_ the tabbed interface Mozilla has.  I use that a
> ton!
> 
> Just my opinion,
> Aaron Bartell
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf Of Hans Boldt
> Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 2:00 PM
> To: web400@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [WEB400] Re: New IE security advice from Microsoft
> 
> 
> Anton Gombkötö wrote:
> > ...
> > And i don't think that they really have much interest in it any more.
> > The mass of users seems to use the browser (& email program) that came
> > with their OS and don't update it. So i guess we won't see anything
> > before the next OS (try). (And if there aren't millions of new users
> > all the time, they aren't learning from their errors, otherwise the
> > latest virii wouldn't have such a population :-)
> 
> I believe I read somewhere that MS has no plans to enhance IE for at 
> least a couple of years. Given the penetration of IE, why bother, eh? 
> But it does offer a nice window of opportunity for the developers of 
> other browsers. Already, Moz is way ahead in features. (And security, it 
> would seem.)
> 
> > 
> > And of course i use Mozilla. I guess i can't live any longer without
> > the web developer's toolbar and Live HTTP headers! :-) A customer even
> > insisted in M$ IE and Mozilla (nothing else :-) and strictly forbid
> > the use of JavaScript.
> > 
> 
> I like the "Link Toolbar". Used properly, it can make site navigation 
> easier. Oh yeah, that extension to disable Flash animations is nice!
> 
> Cheers! Hans
> 
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