Re: CGIDEV2 - Nice to see vendors hopping all over this..

[Tom Jedrzejewicz <tomjedrz@xxxxxxxxx>]

On 7/28/05, Brad Stone <brad@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I was forwarded a newsletter from an ISV selling consulting
> services for Java Servlets.. they've obviously already
> jumping all over this CGIDEV2 issue judging by how they're
> already bending the truth over backwards, confusing
> customers, etc...

I got the same email, and don't see the problem.  While it can
certainly be said that CGI support <> CGIDEV2, it is a marketing email
from a vendor who has skin in the game, and who has been sending out
emails pushing their servlet product for several years.  I suggest
that it was carelessly worded rather than intentionally deceptive.

There has been a great deal of well-reasoned concern on this list that
ending CGIDEV2 support will leave the users in a lurch.  I have no
problem with these folks suggesting their product as an alternative.

> Again in the first line they try to confuse CGIDEV2 with
> CGI.  As if IBM weren't supporting CGI programming any more
> at all (that would mean straight CGI, an any toolkit out
> there.  Even others that aren't pure RPG, but use front
> ends to create RPG CGI in the background).

Brad, I have to say that I am a pretty smart and informed guy, and to
those of you not up to our eyeballs in this stuff the distinction is
pretty subtle.  Until I found CGIDEV2 I had no idea what the CGI is or
that the iSeries web server supported it.  IMHO this is picking nits,
and really isn't germane to the main thrust of their argument anyway.

> Then they use Giovanni's plea to the community as a
> "negative" calling it "kicking and screaming."  

It was essentially "negative" in nature .. we were asked to express
our concern and disappointment.  And, (as an aside) it appears to be
working.

> This is
> sad.  Giovanni and Mel did the platform a great service
> with CGIDEV2, and now an ISV using this in a twisted manner
> to sell services.

I may be wrong, but didn't you sell something related to CGIDEV2 yourself?

> If you have to confuse and/or lie to sell products and
> services...  well...  I'll just leave the moral dilema up
> to each of you.

Me thinks thou dost protest too much ...