Re: AJAX...

["Brad Stone" <brad@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

So, do you return XML and then convert that to HTML?  

Seems like extra work to me.  :)

Have you found any ways to debug AJAX such as view the
source returned on the page, etc?  IT stinks that you can't
even save the page with the dynamic information inserted
and see the *ML that was sent back from the app.  That's
the main thing that's holding me back on implementing it
more.

I had a huge shopping application for a customer set up
with AJAX but decided to go back to standard scripts
because I was finding debugging a pain.  Not that I insert
any bugs into code mind you.  :)

Brad


On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 17:18:15 -0400
 "Bob Cozzi" <cozzi@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Brad,
> Yes, Ajax, i.e., the XMLHttpRequest object supports
> receiving "data". 
> The "default" or "normal" or "usual" or "original" intent
> was to return XML to
> the browser, but it allows you to return anything,
> including HTML, raw data,
> Javascript or XML. 
> I tend to use XML in my AJAX apps, but that' doesn't mean
> everyone does or
> should.
> Sorry for being a be too specific, I tend to do that
> lately. <tic>
>
> -Bob Cozzi
> www.iSeriesTV.com
> Ask your Manager to watch iSeriesTV.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Brad Stone
> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 2:43 PM
> To: Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries
> Subject: Re: [WEB400] AJAX...
>
> On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 11:14:16 -0500
>  Robert Cozzi <cozzi@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > In a CGI library the AJAX pieces really need to be sent
> > as XML. So you need
> > to build the XML using whatever you want. 
>
> Bob,
>
> I've only used AJAX in a few projects now, but I've
> always
> returned HTML and I am curious as to this statement that
> it
> should be XML.
>
> In fact, I found AJAX was what I've wanted for years.
>  It's
> fairly easy to convert your dymamic SSI to AJAX and make
> the pages more seamless (as SSI was the closest to AJAX
> that I could get before, and I use it for almost
> everything).
>
> AJAX really is just returning data to the page, so making
> XML then converting that to HTML really seems like an
> extra
> unneeded step in most web applications, but I am
> interested
> in hearing the whos, whats and whys behind this
> statement.
>  :)
>
> But, I'm shying away from AJAX the more I use it.  It
> seems
> to make debugging and error tracking, not to mention flow
> a
> little more difficult.  But it's still pretty cool.
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