Totally agree about not painting ones self into a specific vendor
corner. And, that's what I"m working on... what's best for our shop
since we are at a turning point. We RUN from RPG.
Don't want to use M$ but it is often preferred here because they drank
the cool-aid, but it's not totally in stone if I can find a well-thought
out better solution.

Your last name has good associations for me.

Take care,

Dave

<Shane_Cessna@xxxxxxx> 5/31/2007 12:30 >>>
Basically, I'm saying that you should use what is best for your
shop...if
your experience is in M$, then keep using it...if it's in RPG then use

it...

We would just prefer to not paint ourselves in a corner basing our
stuff
on M$...we may not be even running any M$ products in 5 years...

Shane Cessna
Senior iSeries Programmer
North American Lighting, Inc.
217.465.6600 x7776



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Shane,

Don't want to go the M$ route either but they can't be ignored. As
long as CGIDEV2 supports standard SQL calls, creates a well known
language, doesn't require using RPG or CL, can work with REXX and my
other requirements stated here, I'll consider it. Tell me more.

Thanks,

Dave

<Shane_Cessna@xxxxxxx> 5/31/2007 12:04 >>>
Something else to stir the pot...

While developing in .NET may be great and all, aren't you painting
yourself into a corner using M$ only products?

My experience in using CGIDEV2 has been wonderful...we've converted
all
of
our webfaced apps to CGI and haven't looked back...users have no
complaints whatsoever about performance or look & feel...

Shane Cessna
Senior iSeries Programmer
North American Lighting, Inc.
217.465.6600 x7776



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<snip>
One advantage to using asp.net over rpg-cgi is your programmers get
to
learn C# !

There's always one comment in your posts that throws me for a complete
loop.
I fully agree that learning another language can only benefit ones
existing
and new RPG development, but to say that is an advantage is just an
odd
way
to create an advantage for the Microsoft approach. I don't know,
maybe
I am
just grumpy today.

I will say that having prebuilt components saves coding most of the
time.
And then 10% of the time they get in the way. My experience is based
on
using Apache's MyFaces (JSF implementation) and ASP.NET's could be
much
better.
</snip>

Based on comments I heard from the person here converting an .ASP
application to a full on .Net application, it's not. The components
are
great if they do exactly what you want and you want to do things the
Microsoft way (this caused lots of problems with a few things). If
what
you're trying to do doesn't meet that criteria, you're either
developing
components from scratch or writing kludgy code.

Matt


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