Windows is not an inferior operating system to i5 OS ( I really would not
compare the two ).
Please note it was you ( Aaron ) who stated that Windows was the inferior
of the two.
I was reading into what I thought you would say, and now you have said it -
that Windows is not an inferior OS to i5OS which leads me to my next
question if you have time to answer (totally fine if you don't, because I
don't have a ton of time to debate this myself).
Why do you put Windows OS as an equal to i5OS (assuming that is where you
place it, or at even better than i5OS)?
If we are going to start doing comparisons, one thing I thought of over the
weekend that I love about i5OS that I have yet to find on Windows is going
into WRKACTJOB and being able to display a complete list of jobs and then
taking option 5 to display the entire job log history. Windows can show me
all of the processes running, but as far as I can tell I can't get a solid
job log. I am not ruling out the fact that I can go to a particular tasks
folder and they _may_ have a .log file there, but every vendor does it
differently in that case.
Thoughts?
Aaron Bartell
http://mowyourlawn.com
-----Original Message-----
From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [
mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Maurice O'Prey
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 1:24 PM
To: 'Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries'
Subject: Re: [WEB400]Recommendationsof webdevelopmentarchitecture/tool
fordiverse i5access...
Since you called that statement out - do you think Windows isn't
inferior
to
i5? Remember, we aren't talking development environments or
languages necessarily, but instead the ability to run an enterprise
efficiently for long term.
Aaron
I guess I have to answer that. Windows is not an inferior operating system
to i5 OS ( I really would not compare the two ). I use both an I love using
both. IBM and Microsoft ... Great if you ask me.
Please note it was you ( Aaron ) who stated that Windows was the inferior of
the two.
Regards
Maurice
-----Original Message-----
From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [
mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of albartell
Sent: 03 June 2007 12:08
To: 'Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries'
Subject: Re: [WEB400] Recommendationsof webdevelopmentarchitecture/tool
fordiverse i5 access...
With the greatest of respect I don't think you should confuse the issue
by
inferring that .NET means C#.NET.
What I meant by that statement is that I don't mind C#.NET at all and
actually find it nice to write in (the little I have). I do a fair amount
of Java so C#.NET as a language made me feel comfortable near immediately.
The part I am not particularly fond of is when somebody takes a business
language like COBOL or RPG, slap .NET on it, compile it to SIL code, and
then call it "the same language you are used to, but better" (I am not
saying you have said this, just what I have heard from press releases).
And as for Windows being an inferior OS to i5 OS I guess you are
entitled
to your opinion on that one (some may just disagree a tiny little bit) ;-)
Since you called that statement out - do you think Windows isn't inferior to
i5? Remember, we aren't talking development environments or languages
necessarily, but instead the ability to run an enterprise efficiently for
long term.
Aaron Bartell
http://mowyourlawn.com
-----Original Message-----
From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [
mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Maurice O'Prey
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 2:01 PM
To: 'Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries'
Subject: Re: [WEB400] Recommendationsof webdevelopmentarchitecture/tool
fordiverse i5 access...
I don't have many qualms about .NET (or rather C#.NET).
Aaron,
With the greatest of respect I don't think you should confuse the issue by
inferring that .NET means C#.NET. As you well know .NET supports any .NET
compliant (compiled) language, VB.NET, C#.NET, J#, RPG, Cobol and so on
(even PERL). One of the major attractions of .NET is that it is (virtually)
language independent ( and neither one is really any better than the other
since they all get compiled into the same intermediate code ) However I
accept that individuals will obviously have their own favourite language. (
a bit like a spell checker really, favourite, favorite ... both the same
darn thing, but which one is right?)
And as for Windows being an inferior OS to i5 OS I guess you are entitled to
your opinion on that one (some may just disagree a tiny little bit) ;-)
Regards
Maurice O'Prey
-----Original Message-----
From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [
mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of albartell
Sent: 01 June 2007 22:43
To: 'Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries'
Subject: Re: [WEB400] Recommendations of webdevelopmentarchitecture/tool
fordiverse i5 access...
As for what I quoted above... .net is feature-rich, .net is easy to use
and
.net is leading edge, so I guess the fact that it's ms-only is a
"non-issue"? <G>
I don't have many qualms about .NET (or rather C#.NET). The UI components
are probably like the others I have used where they work good for most
things. My point more revolves around the fact (yes I said fact) that
Windows is an inferior operating system to i5OS. No I don't have time to
prove that to you in case you were going to ask :-) But I use both for
business related functions daily and I just don't think Windows holds a
candle to i5OS (note I am not talking languages or frameworks here - simply
OS).
Aaron Bartell
http://mowyourlawn.com
-----Original Message-----
From: web400-bounces+albartell=gmail.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[
mailto:web400-bounces+albartell=gmail.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Walden
H. Leverich
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 4:23 PM
To: Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries
Subject: Re: [WEB400] Recommendations of webdevelopmentarchitecture/tool
fordiverse i5 access...
Seriously, if the System i5 can offer a programming framework that is
feature rich, easy to use and lead edge wouldn't the fact that it only
ran
on the System i5 be a non-issue?
Hey, I've got no problem being tied to a platform, I use both System i and
Microsoft <G>. My point was, you can't complain about being tied to a
platform and then suggest System i. If true platform indenpendance is
important to you, then java is just about your only choice. Sure, there are
other "web" languages out there (PHP) but I believe java is the only one
that has back-end capabilities.
Now, you can actually run .NET on non-ms platforms either through mono or
through the grasshopper product, but mainstream .net is ms-only.
As for what I quoted above... .net is feature-rich, .net is easy to use and
.net is leading edge, so I guess the fact that it's ms-only is a
"non-issue"? <G>
-Walden
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Tech Software
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(Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.)
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