Re: Books -- WEB400

Pat,

WebSphere is just another tool for delivering dynamic web content. You can certainly use CGI which has a much smaller learning curve than Java but PHP is also a supported option now (on V5R3 and newer systems) and there are a lot of 3rd party tools for web development. Also, IBM is supporting CGIDEV2 (which competes with Brad's tooling and I think Bob Cozzi also has something similar). Net.Data is also an option but I would choose PHP over it if I were starting from scratch today.

Before you start using these tools, it would be well worth the effort to learn about how HTTP works (this also helps with setting up HTTP servers which is why Professional Apache 2.0 covers this topic) and write a few simple web programs that don't use any of the available frameworks just to get a good understanding of what's going on. It's also a good idea to get an understanding of how CGI works since all of the communication between a web app and the HTTP server works basically the same way. BTW, HTTP and CGI are pretty straight forward and as long as you don't dive too deep into them (at least when you are starting out) shouldn't take much time to get up to speed with.

Matt

-----Original Message-----
From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Pat Barber
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 11:06 AM
To: Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries
Subject: Re: [WEB400] Books

Thanks for the info Jim...

I was wondering about the Brad Stone books and thought about
ordering the two books.

IBM has done their usual miserable job of providing all the tools
but no driving instructions. I can't believe the lack of "tools" for this
part of the system.

I assume Websphere(Webs Fear) is the big
time tool for web development ???

The CGI stuff I found but I have not taken the time to go
through the Easy400 stuff, which I think was developed by
one SE in Italy, who recently retired.

I got a lot of reading to do...

Jim Franz wrote:

Why does everyone say IBM has little ....?
IBM's Redbook - HTTP Server (powered by Apache) SG24-6716-02 (3rd printing)
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg246716.html
I used this and had no problem setting it up for RPGLE/cgi stuff.
Pat - if you also want a background of how the webserver runs on the iSeries
(not java app server, but html webserver) I got my education thru
Brad Stone's 2 books, e-RPG "Building Web applications with RPG" and
eRPG (V2) and the Easy400 tutorials (free), and
the IBM Redbook - Cool Title About the AS/400 and Internet.

btw - in google - this page showed up (looks like IBM internal stuff about
the Redbook & it's sales) someone should tell them....
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/Redbooks.nsf/c4f5b71f6110d854852568ff00741746/d131db32b298a49f85256f9b006cbb89?OpenDocument

Jim Franz

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeffrey Flaker" <jflaker@xxxxxxx>
To: "Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries" <web400@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 8:18 PM
Subject: Re: [WEB400] Books

I agree there is little in the way of iSeries specific topics and the
apache cookbook is a good start.....Apache, being open source, is the
same on any platform and like what ever platform it is running on, you
will need to be familiar with the directory and/or library structures so
you can set up the server correctly. From iSeries, Linux or Windows,
the server works in the same exact way.

-----Original Message-----
From: Guillermo Andrades (CPI Software) <andrades@xxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries <web400@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries <web400@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [WEB400] Books
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 22:13:50 +0100

I can recommend this little book for a resume:

"Apache Cookbook" Ken Coar; Paperback; $18.87 in Amazon.

Maybe you can also needed other more big in order to impress to your boss
or
coworkers (;-])

Best Wishes,
Guillermo Andrades
http://cpiSoftware.es

2007/11/15, Haas, Matt (CL Tech Sv) <matt.haas@xxxxxxxxxxx>:

Pat,

There is very little that's iSeries specific. Creating a server, SSL set
up, and the options for basic authentication are the big differences.
There
are some directives specific to the iSeries version but I can't think of
any
I use.

The book "Professional Apache 2.0" is great (it not only covers how to do
things but also why you'd do things a certain way). It's out of print now
so
you'll have to find used but it has served me well. Also, the Apache
documentation at http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/ is really good. IBM's
documentation is not a good place to start (in fact, it's not all that
great
as a reference).

I also don't like using the admin UI to maintain the server. I use it to
create new ones (the configuration it does for a new server is really
nice)
but after that, I edit them by hand.

Matt

-----Original Message-----
From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Pat Barber
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 11:41 AM
To: WEB400@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [WEB400] Books

Any good books on Apache web server from a Iseries perspective.

I'm brand new to this subject and need to start somewhere.

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