so most Java things other than syntax are readily available to RPG
programmers.

For RPG calling Java, to get decent performance there's a cost of
development that isn't incurred with other ILE languages (i.e. C). I am
obviously talking about one JVM per job.

(I'm going to ignore .NET just because I choose to <grin>. It requires an
operating system that Microsoft can barely deliver. You want to run your
business on Vista?

Is there a "Vista Server Edition" just like there was for XP? I know for
one of my JSF apps they always put it on Windows XP Web Edition or something
like that. As I understand it there are subtle differences that might make
it better than what we run on our desktops - but that's all the further I
can comment.

What are your top ten advancements in Java since, say, Java 2. That gives
you 1.3, 1.4, 5 and 6. My guess is that the majority of your answers will
be in J2EE, not J2SE, but I might be wrong.

With Java I would say my perception of it accelerating faster than RPG would
in many ways be in the area of library advancement/creation. So look at how
much the Java UI (Swing, SWT, Matisse) has been able to expand over the
years. And then obviously, like you guessed, look at how much Java on the
web has advanced (Servlets, JSP's, Struts, JSF, etc). Some of the things I
consider advancement are part of the JCP and some are not (i.e. JFreeChart
at jfree.org). So if you look at the big picture of a language, isn't it
fair to say that Java has been accelerating on nearly all fronts faster than
RPG?

Given your preference to Java, what would be on your list?

Aaron Bartell
http://mowyourlawn.com

-----Original Message-----
From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Joe Pluta
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 4:33 PM
To: 'Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries'
Subject: Re: [WEB400] EGL FUD

From: Aaron Bartell

Language advancement is more than syntax which is where I was going with
that statement. If you look at the big picture, RPG can't hold
a candle to Java/C#.NET concerning advancements.

I guess I need to see where you're coming from. The beauty of i5/OS is that
it's very easy to use both RPG and Java, so most Java things other than
syntax are readily available to RPG programmers.

(I'm going to ignore .NET just because I choose to <grin>. It requires an
operating system that Microsoft can barely deliver. You want to run your
business on Vista? I sure don't and it seems that the overwhelming majority
of businesses agree. But let's leave that out of the equation, since you
included Java in your list of heavily advancing languages.)

What are your top ten advancements in Java since, say, Java 2. That gives
you 1.3, 1.4, 5 and 6. My guess is that the majority of your answers will
be in J2EE, not J2SE, but I might be wrong.

And since this is absolutely just opinion, don't worry about me trying to
disprove your points. I'm truly interested in your opinion (which is also
why I steer clear of Microsoft; I am so heavily anti-Windows biased that I
don't think I can really offer an unbiased discussion there).

Joe


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