Re: Apache and .Net

[Joe Pluta <joepluta@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Richard Schoen wrote:
> Sure Joe. Whatever you say.  Take a poll of how many shops are using
> Windows and I think your non-Windows argument goes out the Window(s).
> Even Joe uses Windows.
Windows as a desktop is different than Windows as a server.  And Windows 
as a file server is different than Windows as an application server.  
Then start polling how many banks use Windows as the applicaiton server 
for their enterprise systems.  How many manufacturing companies?  How 
many web-based companies?  Google?  Yahoo?

Suddenly there's not that many.  Even though they have Windows desktops, 
they won't use Windows to run their business. 

> I'm certainly not saying Windows doesn't have its issues, but so do OS's
> such as "i". Can you say SLOOOOOW Java.  Hopefully V6R1 helps solve some
> of that. 
>   
Java is memory and CPU intensive.  If you have the memory and CPU 
dedicated to the JVM, Java runs just as fast on the i as anywhere else.  
i clients use Java all the time.  But what's nice about using industry 
standard Java code such as that generated by EGL is that I can easily 
move it off of the i if I need to - to Unix, Linux or even Windows.

Because honestly, Windows isn't bad as an web appliance.  It crashes 
less often now, and you can put a bunch of cheap memory and disk on it.  
And there are people like you, Richard, who can make the platform do 
wonders.

I just think that for the average i developer EGL can do better.  
Faster.  More easily.  And integrate better with the i.

> It's very embarrassing when I have to tell customers to run their Java
> apps on Windows because the "i" can't run them as fast.  You might say
> that causes a black "i" for "i".
>   
Personally, I don't like using Java for applications at all.  We've 
already got the best business language in the world right on the i - 
it's called RPG.  EGL is simply the fastest way to build industry 
standard user interfaces to RPG business logic.

> > No, you miss the point.  EGL is based on CSP - a technology first introduced in 1981, before Windows was a gleam in Steve Jobs' eye.  <<
> >
> >     
> Can you say L.E.G.A.C.Y :-)
>   
And since when is Legacy a bad word?

Oh - when Microsoft wants you to dump the i and run everything on .Net.  
<grin>

Joe