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["Aaron Bartell" <aaronbartell@xxxxxxxxx>]

Yes Niels it would be great to have such stories available to the public.  I
am curious what types of applications sold the IBMi and how much the total
cost was (including hardware) that made them go with the IBMi?

Aaron Bartell
http://mowyourlawn.com

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 5:25 AM, Niels Liisberg <liisberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> Aaron Bartell wrote>>
> Does Zend have any public PHP "success stories" of PHP on the IBMi?  I know
> lots on this forum have had success, but they were already on the IBMi.  I
> am looking for a story where somebody actually made the move and provided
> reasons for WHY they chose the more expensive IBMi over other servers.
>
> It would be great to see IBMSystemsMag.com do such a story!
> <<
>
> Hi Aaron;
>
> When we are discussing PHP this way it is actually a discussion on the
> price
> and the appeal of the LAMP stack v.s. iADP stack (Linux Apache mySQL PHP)
> vs. ("i" Apache DB/2 PHP).
>
> Unfortunately for IBM ( and us), LAPM is so easy to jump on. Thousand of
> internet providers give you a virtual LAPM stack for a couple a bucks a
> month. And you can experiment with it on a warn out PC.
>
> I don't think you will find a lot of PHP newbies on the "i" out there.
> However, PHP is a great migration path for IBMi customers and maybe or
> maybe
> not abandon the IBMi ship and move to other platforms.
>
> One story though is maybe the University of Gothenburg. I know they are
> using the "i" for all kind of stuff, and teaching PHP and java on the box.
> I
> know because I was up there teaching application modernization using
> IceBreak.
>
> I have a number of success stories where we have killed some windows
> servers
> with the "i", however it was not thanks to PHP. It has always bee where we
> had a turnkey solution... add water and you have a party.
>
> In these cases we have sold the complete solution and never talked about
> what was under the hood of the black box. We sold it on "total cost of
> ownership". And it works.....
>
> If we had talked of RPG or IceBreak we would had left the party before it
> began. However, we had success selling new "i"s to customers who never had
> "i"s before counting prominent names like Ford motors, Mazda motors among
> others.
>
> If you like it I can send you lots of case stories where out customers has
> purchased new "i"s and switched off the windoze.
>
> The key here is the tons of legacy code we have written in RPG and now
> migrated and orchestrated as webservices by IceBreak. This garnished with
> new funky UI in extJS - to a sub low total price... does the trick.
>
> Just to underline my point that PHP is a super great tool but is not the
> salvation for the "i" - but rewiring the legacy code is. So the answer to
> your question is: few.
>
> Syd is backing my point if I read him right: