Re: Developing a webapplication with JSF/J2EE: where do I start?

[James Perkins <jrperkinsjr@xxxxxxxxx>]

The Spring framework and JSF are not really in the same category.

The Spring framework is more of a database abstraction layer. It's WAY more
detail than that, but it's the best summary I could think of.

JavaServer Faces(JSF) is your UI. You basically design JavaServer Pages but
use the JSF tag libraries. With JSF you get A LOT more control over your
components though. It's similar to a true GUI like Swing.

You could also check out Tapestry (http://tapestry.apache.org/). I have not
used it, but it's similar to the JSF approach.

Now, if I had the time to learn and we could get JavaFX to the IBM i, we
could get some nice VERY rich UI!

--
James R. Perkins


On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 10:21, James Rich <james@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On Tue, 3 Mar 2009, Ewout N Boter wrote:
>
> > We are investigating some possibilities to jump on the web-application
> > bandwagon. Our resources are limited, and we have decided to explore two
> > alternatives: Groovy on Grails on one hand, and a combination of JSF,
> J2EE
> > and IceFaces on the other hand. (If anyone can convince us that one of
> > these alternatives is by far better than the other, we might consider to
> > drop one alternative immediately!). I will start exploring the latter
> > alternative, and a colleague will follow the Groovy-trail.
>
> I have recently started digging into web applications as well.  After
> talking to a number of people and doing my own research I decided to use
> the Spring framework ( http://www.springsource.org/ ).  Spring is supposed
> to have several advantages over JSF including being easier to code for.  I
> have no experience with JSF and my Spring experience consists mainly of
> following the tutorial, so take everything I say with a grain of salt.
> That said, Spring was developed after a leading expert in J2EE development
> wrote a book about some of the shortcomings of J2EE and made several
> suggestions as to how it could be improved.  Spring is the result.  Spring
> can also use JPA and Hibernate which seem to be good database access
> frameworks.
>
> Just though I'd throw in what I've been studying up on lately.  I am very,
> very green in this area.
>
> James Rich
>
> if you want to understand why that is, there are many good books on
> the design of operating systems. please pass them along to redmond
> when you're done reading them :)
>        - Paul Davis on ardour-dev
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