Re: EGL, Java and PHP -- WEB400

Agreed, I like to limit myself to just two languages. RPGLE and JavaScript.
Using IceBreak on the System I. At the moment I have no need for anything
else.

I did learn Java, and have created a number of Java applications, but the
biggest problem I have found is unreliability. A few years after writing the
software that contains Java, the customer upgrades to a new Java version and
the entire application fails because in the meantime something has been
deprecated, then removed.

This has caused several problems for me where critical software has suddenly
failed. Most system I customers are used to failing software, especially
several years after installation. They complain and require an urgent fix
and blame the programmer for creating low quality software. System I
customers are rather spoiled for reliability and software stability. In any
fixes I created, I dropped the Java, and replaced all Java code with RPG.

It hasn't all been negative. This occurrence has also provided additional
consultancy when the original programmer/consultant seems to have moved on
to other things.

I dropped Java, JSP, Apache, TomCat, etc. when IceBreak came along. And now
I have no incentive to change back. Life is much, much simpler.

Syd

-----Original Message-----
From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Aaron Bartell
Sent: 29 December 2009 15:31
To: Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries
Subject: Re: [WEB400] EGL, Java and PHP

My comment is purely opinion based, but whenever you combine two significant
languages that the programmer has to touch, you increase the burden by a
lot. They now have to keep up to date with both PHP and Java, and all the
different frameworks/codesets/tools/conferences/test
mechanisms/deployment/etc that go with those. I would much rather have a
single language and not have every cool tool immediately, than have many
different languages.

Aaron Bartell
http://mowyourlawn.com
http://mowyourlawn.com/blog/

On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Kelly Cookson <KCookson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:

If IBM is going to support EGL, Java, and PHP on IBM i for the foreseeable
future, why not explore how these can be combined to get the best of each
technology?

I've been quite interested in the combination of Java and PHP. The idea is
to get the best of both worlds. PHP and Java can already be combined using

PHP-Java bridge, which requires a Java runtime in addition to a PHP

runtime.

Or they can be combined using something like Quercus, which translates PHP
into Java and runs solely in a Java runtime. I've installed both on my
personal computer but have not had a chance to play with them yet. I think
it would be great to have a set of tools that would let me easily mix EGL,
Java and PHP to get the strengths of each.

Kelly

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