Re: Would you take a complimentary course on HTML from acompany whose website looked like this?

[Vern Hamberg <vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

LOL - background music is a bit overrated - I once wrote an app for a 
company that rebuilds locomotives. It was something for the on-site 
people to enter data, then bring it back to the office. I did this in 
dBase IV, I think, and I made it play the first phrase of "I've been 
workin' on the rail-------road" as the app started - that got keboshed 
very quickly!!!

Vern

Raul A. Jager W. wrote:
> I will like to be great at every thing: like being able to create a nice 
> looking design, with the data well aranged using the ideal fonts, colors 
> and position  for every item. Also to create a great looking frame not 
> to heavy, not to simple. Also to be able to compose a beatifull 
> backgroung music for each page.  But, time and ability to learn is 
> limited, so I rather rely on "team work".
>
> Mike Pavlak wrote:
>
>   
> > Michael,
> >
> > Thank you for your honesty!  It is refreshing in many cases.  If you'll
> > permit me to peel back one more layer of the onion let me ask you one
> > question.  Do you (or anyone else on this thread) believe your
> > limitations regarding "the whole visual thing" is a choice or a
> > handicap?  
> >
> > I will offer my own personal experience once I have seen a few responses
> > as I would rather not taint the well of free thought.  I do believe
> > education is paramount to staying current whether it is free or for
> > charge.  And by that I mean the act of learning and not just sitting
> > through a webinar because the boss told you to.  In today's
> > technological society, if you are not moving forward you are standing
> > still.  And if everyone else is moving forward around you that means you
> > will probably get run over.  It may be an overused saying but it sure
> > feels like what's going on out there!
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > mike.p@xxxxxxxx   Cell: (408)679-1011    Office: (815)722-3454
> >
> > Zend Server for IBM i Beta avilable at
> > http://www.zend.com/en/products/server/zend-server-5-new-ibmi 
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > On Behalf Of Michael Ryan
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 7:31 AM
> > To: Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries
> > Subject: Re: [WEB400] Would you take a complimentary course on HTML from
> > acompany whose website looked like this?
> >
> > I think that's a great point Kelly. I think I'm among a lot of iSeries
> > folks
> > that think in terms of lists. That's our background. And I know when
> > I've
> > designed web sites, it looks like a list of 'things' cause that's the
> > way I
> > think. I can produce some really nice ETL code for loading to web sites,
> > and
> > I can write some really good code to process orders from web sites, but
> > the
> > whole visual thing isn't me.
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Kelly Cookson
> > <KCookson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> >
> >  
> >
> >     
> > > For all we know the source behind gotomeeting page was auto-generated
> > >    
> > >
> > >       
> > code
> >  
> >
> >     
> > > (or at least partially auto-generated). The source behind BCD's home
> > >    
> > >
> > >       
> > page is
> >  
> >
> >     
> > > better. At any rate, like Mike said earlier, the only way to fairly
> > >    
> > >
> > >       
> > judge
> >  
> >
> >     
> > > the quality of the webinar is to attend it.
> > >
> > > I also agree with Vern: the excellent tutorials at www.w3schools.com
> > >    
> > >
> > >       
> > are
> >  
> >
> >     
> > > probably just as good or better than the webinar in terms of the
> > >    
> > >
> > >       
> > information
> >  
> >
> >     
> > > provided. Yet, some people are auditory learners and want to hear the
> > > information from a live teacher. They will also have the benefit of
> > >    
> > >
> > >       
> > being
> >  
> >
> >     
> > > able to ask questions.
> > >
> > > I think these posts do raise an interesting question of how
> > >    
> > >
> > >       
> > RPG/COBOL/CL
> >  
> >
> >     
> > > programmers should be retrained in IBM i modernization. Do we really
> > >    
> > >
> > >       
> > expect
> >  
> >
> >     
> > > people who are great at developing RPG and COBOL programs to be great
> > >    
> > >
> > >       
> > at
> >  
> >
> >     
> > > designing web pages as well?
> > >
> > > Kelly Cookson
> > > Senior Programmer/Analyst
> > > Dot Foods, Inc.
> > > 217-773-4486 x12676
> > > www.dotfoods.com
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > >    
> > >
> > >       
> > On
> >  
> >
> >     
> > > Behalf Of Dean, Robert
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 6:47 AM
> > > To: web400@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: Re: [WEB400] Would you take a complimentary course on HTML
> > >    
> > >
> > >       
> >from a
>   
> >  
> >
> >     
> > > company whose website looked like this?
> > >
> > > The ugly part isn't necessarily how the page looks, it's the HTML
> > >    
> > >
> > >       
> > behind
> >  
> >
> >     
> > > that page.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > >    
> > >
> > >       
> > On
> >  
> >
> >     
> > > Behalf Of Tom Deskevich
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 7:39 AM
> > > To: web400@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [WEB400] Would you take a complimentary course on HTML from a
> > > company whose website looked like this?
> > >
> > > Shoot me, but I don't think it looks that bad. I guess I have spent
> > >    
> > >
> > >       
> > too
> >  
> >
> >     
> > > many
> > > years with 5250.
> > > I guess we don't' care if it works or flows well, or how long it takes
> > >    
> > >
> > >       
> > to
> >  
> >
> >     
> > > bring the page up, just how pretty it is.
> > > That is the difference is taking wares to the market now I guess. It
> > >    
> > >
> > >       
> > HAS to
> >  
> >
> >     
> > > look good first.
> > >
> > > Tom Deskevich
> > > This message was sent via bag phone.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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