Most correct,

ExtJS is excellent in a pure RPGLE environment ;-)

Henrik




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I went to the learning center for the ExtJS tool you appear to use on the
page:

http://212.242.251.247:1550/pextcgi/pxwkpxx9.pgm.

The very first article I read in the learning center said this:

"As a client-side framework, Ext can run against any server platform that
can process POST requests and return structured data. Common choices
include PHP, Java, .NET and many more. There are server-side frameworks
available for most popular platforms that will make your life much easier
when programming under the AJAX application model that Ext uses."

So it sounds like the Java script tools you are using can interoperate
quite well with PHP and other server-side scripts. In fact, if you want to
access remote server resources, it appears you have to use PHP or some
other server-side technology. ExtJS does not make PHP obsolete. They could
very well complement each other.

Kelly Cookson
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Here is a link to a RIA type of application, try to browse the source that

created the page .... how much PHP/HTML is needed ?

http://212.242.251.247:1550/pextcgi/pxwkpxx9.pgm

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Facebook still uses PHP. Here's how a Facebook developer describes their
use of PHP, HipHop and C:

"HipHop for PHP isn't technically a compiler itself. Rather it is a source

code transformer. HipHop programmatically transforms your PHP source code
into highly optimized C++ and then uses g++ to compile it."

"One common way to address these inefficiencies is to rewrite the more
complex parts of your PHP application directly in C++ as PHP Extensions.
This largely transforms PHP into a glue language between your front end
HTML and application logic in C++."

So they still use PHP. They just take the complex parts of the PHP and run

it through HipHop to compile into C. The C programs are then used as PHP
extensions. Like the guy says, PHP becomes the glue between the HTML front

end and the C back end.

Now, wouldn't it be cool if Zend and IBM could partner up and get HipHop
running on IBM i? We could use an HTML front end, a C back end (which
through the magic of ILE could allow reuse of RPG and COBOL), and PHP as
the glue that ties it all together.

Here's the article if you want to read more:
http://developers.facebook.com/news.php?blog=1&story=358

Kelly Cookson
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Dot Foods, Inc.
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Well, JavaScript generation is just a minor auxiliary that most people
never pay any attention to. But Dreamweaver is the best tool we've found
for "writing", "editing", and "managing" HTML, CSS, and JavaScript
projects in an integrated & consistent manner.

I don't want to get off topic, either.

It seems that one trap that PHP developers may fall into might be called
the "Facebook syndrome", where the applications become robust enough and
popular enough, that you begin looking for ways to get them to perform &
scale better, after the fact. In the case of Facebook, that led them to
transform the code to C.

-Nathan.







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Not to get off-topic, but the JavaScript code that DreamWeaver generated
the last time I used it was horrendous. It would be a huge headache to
maintain.

Thanks,
Todd Allen
EDPS
Electronic Data Processing Services
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