Re: Which scales better? J2EE, PHP, or CGIDEV2?

["Kevin Schroeder" <kevin@xxxxxxxx>]

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-----Original Message-----
From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Henrik RÃtzou
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 3:24 PM
To: Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries
Subject: Re: [WEB400] Which scales better? J2EE, PHP, or CGIDEV2?

Kevin

what is the difference in having a choise between 1 or 2 servers and 30.000
and 60.000 servers ?
/Henrik
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 10:12 PM, Paul Tuohy <tuohyp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> I'm sorry Henrik - am I missing a point somewhere?
>
> Regards
>
> Paul Tuohy
> ComCon
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>  Henrik Ru"tzou wrote:
> > Paul
> >
> > let me challenge you, how do you rewrite a traditional PHP application to
> a
> > OOjavescript client driven RIA application ?
> >
> > Regards
> > Henrik
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 9:24 PM, Paul Tuohy <tuohyp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> > > Nathan,
> > >
> > > Just to complete the quote and put it in full context...
> > >
> > > "The issue here is how to identify high, medium, and low, and I'm afraid
> > > there is no easy answer to that. It all depends on what the application
> > > is doing.
> > >
> > > Hardware also has a large say in the proceedings. An application running
> > > on a Power 7 machine runs faster than the same application running on
> > > Power 5.
> > >
> > > So, unless you have specific application knowledge that would lead you
> > > in one direction or another, I would let ease of maintenance and
> > > development be your guide."
> > >
> > > The language relevance has more to do with an application distributed
> > > over multiple servers (which is what you usually have with "high") and,
> > > apparently, J2EE play a bit better in that world than PHP or RPG.
> > >
> > > FWIW my own personal preferences are PHP and RPG - simply from the point
> > > of view of ease of maintenance.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Paul Tuohy
> > > ComCon
> > > www.comconadvisor.com
> > > www.systemideveloper.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Nathan Andelin wrote:
> > >
> > > > Quoted from Get Thee to the Web, Part 3 by Paul Tuohy:
> > > >
> > > > "Scalability relates to how many people will be accessing your
> > > application at
> > >
> > > > the same time, and how well your application can handle the workload
> > > without
> > >
> > > > detrimental response times. Usually, you would use Java for high usage,
> > > PHP for
> > >
> > > > medium, and CGIDEV2 for below medium."
> > > >
> > > > http://www.itjungle.com/fhg/fhg092210-story01.html
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > What makes people THINK that J2EE scales better than PHP, and PHP
> scales
> > > >
> > > better
> > >
> > > > than CGIDEV2?  Is that thinking correct?
> > > >
> > > > -Nathan
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