Re: iSeries vs IIS web site

[Mike Pavlak <mike.p@xxxxxxxx>]

And don't be afraid to fight the "not invented here" syndrome.  You can load Drupal on your IBM i and hire a Drupal "themer" to take care of the design and even teach you.  With a world class CMS lie Drupal, the folks in marketing and other departments can maintain their own content.  I have shown MANY how amazingly easy it is to integrate custom PHP code from IBM i to existing Drupal webpages without disemboweling Drupal.  For a free tour of a free open source CMS, check out Drupal gardens and let me know if you need a themer!  You can prototype there and then export! http://www.drupalgardens.com/ 

If Drupal is not your cup of tea, check out what the folks at WMCPA did with their implementation of Joomla!  http://www.wmcpa.org/  Yes, it is running on IBM i!

And, I gotta believe, we can backup most of not all of the website hot!  Been a while since I looked at that myself so I bet Jim can add a little here.  Don't forget the DB2 Storage engine for MySQL based applications (like Drupal and Joomla) that could write to DB2 tables that could be journaled and replicating to an HA machine, ala MIMIX.  Hmmm, backups?  We don-need no stinkin' backups!  

:-)

Mike

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-----Original Message-----
From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Oberholtzer
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 8:15 AM
To: Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries
Subject: Re: [WEB400] iSeries vs IIS web site

This is why PHP and Apache are on the IBM i platform.  By using a 
combination of tools you already have, great web sites that do not use 
significant resources can be built.  Remembering that the IBM i has 
significant security built in (where Windows is very suspect) and all of 
the open source resources available to IBM i with MySQL  most anything 
can be done mostly with the skills you already have.   CGIDEV2 and PHP 
together (keep in mind the Zend toolkit) and you can do all of the back 
end in RPG.  Toss in Aaron's RPGUI code for accessing a Droid device and 
you have the whole thing.

If your on new enough equipment set up a hosted partition and run it 
stand alone.  Want to run Linux instead OK.  To me it's just too easy to 
stay with what you already know. Need to learn PHP; If I can learn PHP, 
anyone can.  Really....

Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects


On 4/12/2011 7:36 AM, Rich Dotson wrote:
> Our current web site iswww.wlerwy.com.   It runs on an IIS server but I am not looking to port it elsewhere.  For obvious reasons it will be a total scrap and rewrite.  Marketing wants a web site that will inform potential customers and draw their business to us instead of drive them away like our current site does.  I currently use ProfoundUI to develop a browser based interface for all of our in-house applications.   There will also be sections of the website that will allow employees and current customers to sign in to current iSeries applications.   This is currently being done using Websphere but is being replaced by new programs using the ProfoundUI interface.
> So, in short.  We need a website to:
> 1. Promote WLE as a company and the advantages to using our services.2. Allow Employees to sign in to the iSeries perform job functions.3. Allow current customers to sign into the iSeries and enter bill-of-lading information, track train cars assigned to them, produce misc reports, etc...
>
>
> > >  From:franz400@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >  To:web400@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >  Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 22:40:07 -0400
> > >  Subject: Re: [WEB400] iSeries vs IIS web site
> > >  
> > >  Well ...
> > >  what kind of website (advertise only, static, dynamic, customer access, the
> > >  world at your door..?)
> > >  Small, medium or large enterprise - and what is your server infrastructure ?
> > >  
> > >  I think what physical server it lives on is the last question, long after
> > >  defining
> > >  where you are at&  where you want to go.
> > >  
> > >  If your site currently built with MS tools and using MS proprietary
> > >  extensions, you will have an effort to port it elsewhere.
> > >  Start with the fact the i runs the Apache webserver, far more prominent in
> > >  the web world than IIS.
> > >  Here is a breakdown of the "software" running the web:
> > >  http://news.netcraft.com/
> > >  
> > >  If we knew more about your company&  what you need, it would add to the
> > >  discussion.
> > >  
> > >  Jim Franz
> > >  
> > >  ----- Original Message -----
> > >  From: "Rich Dotson"<rich_dotson@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >  To:<web400@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >  Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 8:51 PM
> > >  Subject: [WEB400] iSeries vs IIS web site
> > >  
> > >  
> > > >  >
> > > >  >  Because our web site is so bad and we do not have anyone to develop it I
> > > >  >  am trying to convenience management to allow me to pursue setting up our
> > > >  >  iSeries and developing our web site on our iSeries.   The individual in
> > > >  >  charge of our network is 'talking down' the iSeries as a web server.    Is
> > > >  >  there a web site, white paper or any document comparing the advantages and
> > > >  >  disadvantages of using an iSeries vs some other web server.    I am just
> > > >  >  starting my research and need as much information as possible to make my
> > > >  >  side of the argument.
> > > >  >  Thanks,Rich Dotson