We have had good experiences with JAX-WS under Java 6 (the new, non-Classic
version).

* Create Java method that knows how to do a ProgramCall using
localhost,*CURRENT,*CURRENT
* Annotate it with @WebService, @WebMethod (and perhaps a little bit more).
* Publish it with Endpoint.publish.

Additionally it can generate the WSDL on demand, so you are certain it is
correct. That is _really_ nice, as this is usually what clients need, so
you just do the initial iteration with an empty Java method just saying
Hello World, and provide them with the WSDL-link.

With some extra elbow grease you can put it in a servlet container too.

We would like a nice native client too, though.

/Thorbjørn


-----Original Message-----
From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Kevin Turner
Sent: 28. januar 2012 11:51
To: Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries
Subject: Re: [WEB400] Web Services War Stories

Nathan

I guess when you are the consumer you have no choice but to use whatever the
web service provider using. You cannot dictate to the provider the
transport mechanism they should use for their web service, so whether SOAP
is 100%, 60% or 1% you still may have to cater for it. The web services we
have to call are all based around the industry we provide solutions for -
browser based front-ends to subscriber management and billing systems. These
may be IBMi based or they may not. We have to call web services that handle
document management, letter writing, talking to addressable interfaces for
set-top boxes, creating/retrieving customers, creating/retrieving
orders...all sorts really.

If you have the tooling to handle WSDLs and SOAP then consuming and
providing web services is like falling off a log. That is the trouble - we
are an RPG shop so we don't have the tooling (or at least not to the level
you have for other languages). We tried the IBMi XML Toolkit once (which
generates C++ proxy classes from a WSDL) and called them from RPG. It was
too buggy so we had to go with our own RPG solution. WSDL2RPG may help but
I haven't tested it yet.

When we are providing web services we tend to stick to the simple XML POST
approach because SOAP does nothing but provide us with an overhead we can do
without. However, in doing so, we make life harder for our consumers - and
we have to spend more time documenting how the service is supposed to work.
We invariably get the question - where is your WSDL? I think Scott touched
on this in his response earlier.

- Kevin


-----Original Message-----
From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Nathan Andelin
Sent: 27 January 2012 23:56
To: Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries
Subject: Re: [WEB400] Web Services War Stories

From: Kevin Turner
of the several disparate systems we have to interface with, only about
60% of them use the WSDL/SOAP approach.


That's the kind of feedback I was hoping to get. 60% is quite significant.
That makes WSDL/SOAP a factor to consider. Can you share a little about the
types of requests you're getting for Web Services, or what you're using as a
consumer?

There was some talk about using JSON rather than XML for data exchange. We
see JSON all the time in web applications. But has it made the leap to Web
Services?

-Nathan

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