I agree Richard.

I can't imagine this working consistently over my satellite connection to
the web. Certainly not enough for a business-level-app.



-----Original Message-----
From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Richard Schoen
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 8:40 PM
To: web400@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [WEB400] Websockets on the IBMi

In the states we still can't truly rely on full time always connected stable
connections. We get full time, mostly connected with a lot of interruptions
if on wireless and or cable connections.

That's why to me the Websockets stuff seems fraught with potential pitfalls
trying to keep a socket connection open over a 90% uptime at best.
Especially when it comes to mobile phones and tablets. Wireless can be
spotty even in well covered areas like Mpls and Chicago. New York and LA.

I like the idea of having an always on connection, but the flexibility of
dropping offline into a tunnel and resuming when I exit the tunnel is one of
the things that makes stateless programming so flexible as well.

No magic answer, but I would be careful when implementing Websockets in a
real-world scenario. Make sure to thing about your worst possible client
connection and program for that.

Regards,
Richard Schoen
RJS Software Systems Inc.
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-----Original Message-----

date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 21:15:29 +0100
from: Kevin Turner <kevin.turner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: [WEB400] Websockets on the IBMi

I am not sure that the whole point of HTTP was stateless programming :) I
think the whole point originally was to deliver static HTML pages to
browsers on slow unreliable connections. Stateless programming evolved from
that point - the point where you could not rely on a steady, reliable and
fast connection between the client and the server.

Actually, with some ISPs in the UK, you still cannot rely on a steady,
reliable and fast connection.... :(

-----Original Message-----
From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Richard Schoen
Sent: 11 July 2012 21:03
To: web400@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [WEB400] Websockets on the IBMi

Jon,

I was thinking the very same thing when I was reading the threads :-)

Sounds interesting, but the whole point of HTTP was stateless programming
originally......................

Regards,
Richard Schoen
RJS Software Systems Inc.
Where Information Meets Innovation
Document Management, Workflow, Report Delivery, Forms and Business
Intelligence
Email: richard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Web Site: http://www.rjssoftware.com
Tel: (952) 736-5800
Fax: (952) 736-5801
Toll Free: (888) RJSSOFT



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