Jon is not the only one observing this phenomenon, he is simply open to reporting it and acknowledging its existence. The reality is that there as many different configurations of shops out there as there are shops. Jon reports what he sees and maybe he (and I) get drawn into more polarized RPGish shops. Heaven knows why they get silo'd, but they do. Regarding the alignment of RPG and gui development resources, I am seeing that happen with PHP as the RPG'ers are trained. But this takes time as it would with any technology and the younger folks are coming to IBM i. Woohoo!
Stay cool!
Mike
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From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Maurice O'Prey
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 2:06 PM
To: 'Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries'
Subject: Re: [WEB400] XMLSERVICE with .Net
Jon
BUT it is a reality in the vast majority of shops that I work with
that
they are two completely different teams. Fact of life.<<
It's not a fact in my life? Things change over time and we have to embrace and adapt to them. (System/38 in 1981 & .NET in 2012)
I got the idea from your continuing perception of YOUR reality?
Regards
Maurice
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From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jon Paris
Sent: 13 August 2012 7:11 PM
To: web400@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [WEB400] XMLSERVICE with .Net
On 2012-08-13, at 1:00 PM, web400-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
It's a strange analogy you raise, the IBMi crowd and the other crowd?
Wouldn't it be nice if you could do both?
Why do what should be simple conversations get so complicated?
I'm all in favor of doing both. Where did you get the idea I didn't? BUt it is a reality in the vast majority of shops that I work with that they are two completely different teams. Fact of life.
All I have ever tried to do in this conversation is point out where the strengths of XMLSERVICE lie and why some of the design decisions behind came about. I have neither negative or positive feelings about .Net (it is a fact of life whether I like MS or not). I strongly support the development of stored procedures - never said otherwise.
And I am sooo out of this discussion.
Jon Paris
www.partner400.com
www.SystemiDeveloper.com
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