Re: Installing WAS 8.5 Express Supplements -- WEB400

It is, you are correct. Again, IBM has created the documentation for those that don't need it, and managed to bury it so deep in the website neither Google nor Bing can find it.

Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects

On 1/30/2013 12:13 PM, Jack Kingsley wrote:

Maybe need to research using IMCL?/ Think that is what it was called.

On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Jim Oberholtzer<
midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> That's really close Jack, thank you, however they changed the
> installation procedures for WAS 8.5, and the documentation there is for
> 6.1.
>
> Jim Oberholtzer
> Chief Technical Architect
> Agile Technology Architects
>
>
> On 1/30/2013 11:47 AM, Jack Kingsley wrote:

> > This looks like it might be it:
> >
> >

> http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/wasinfo/v6r1/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.ibm.websphere.nd.iseries.doc%2Finfo%2Fiseriesnd%2Fae%2Ftins_is_webplugins_silent.html

> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Jack Kingsley<iseriesflorida@xxxxxxxxx
> >wrote:
> >

> >> > Jim, are these the plugins.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Dean, Robert<rdean@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

> wrote:

> >> >

> >>> >> It depends on your point of view. The PTF process just complicates
> >>> >> Installation Manager. If you manage it on its own, it's even

> simpler in

> >>> >> some regards than licpgm/PTF. Installing the product and all

> available

> >>> >> fixes can be done in one pass, and applying applicable fixes is

> similarly

> >>> >> straightforward.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> -----Original Message-----
> >>> >> From:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:

> web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]

> >>> >> On Behalf Of Jim Oberholtzer
> >>> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 11:36 AM
> >>> >> To: Web Enabling the IBM i (AS/400 and iSeries)
> >>> >> Subject: Re: [WEB400] Installing WAS 8.5 Express Supplements
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Aaahhh I wish for the simplicity of an LPP and options, but alas,

> no they

> >>> >> are not features in the sense that they show up on the display

> licensed

> >>> >> program list. Base WAS does yes, but not the supplemental

> products.

> >>> >>
> >>> >> I am so glad Zend decided to use the Licensed Program and PTF

> route to

> >>> >> load and update Zend Server. It's so much easier than WAS.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Yes WAS uses a PTF, but then you have to update the installation

> manager,

> >>> >> then run the script to apply all the changes to the server
> >>> >> while it's down. That can take "some minutes" as Larry likes to

> say.

> >>> >> That process is nearly as awful as the original installation. If

> you get

> >>> >> an error which happens quite often, you have to be a Java Guru to

> figure

> >>> >> out what went wrong and correct it. Usually it's a misspelling of

> one of

> >>> >> the options, or a missed dash or something like that, but it's a

> bit of a

> >>> >> task to find it.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Jim Oberholtzer
> >>> >> Chief Technical Architect
> >>> >> Agile Technology Architects
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On 1/30/2013 9:59 AM, Jack Kingsley wrote:

> >>>> >> > Do you have more info than just supplemental products?? Would

> these

> >>>> >> > be features of 5733W80 5733W85 then??
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> > On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Jim Oberholtzer<
> >>>> >> > midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>> >> >

> >>>>>> >> >> > Jack,
> >>>>>> >> >> >
> >>>>>> >> >> > Yes that is the instruction sheet for the original

> install. I'll

> >>>>>> >> >> > argue, now from experience, that they leave quite a bit

> out but it

> >>>>>> >> >> > works for the base installation. What I'm after is the
> >>>>>> >> >> > instructions on how to do the supplemental products

> that are on the

> >>> >> second DVD.

> >>>>>> >> >> >
> >>>>>> >> >> > Jim Oberholtzer
> >>>>>> >> >> > Chief Technical Architect
> >>>>>> >> >> > Agile Technology Architects
> >>>>>> >> >> >
> >>>>>> >> >> >
> >>>>>> >> >> > On 1/30/2013 9:42 AM, Jack Kingsley wrote:

> >>>>>>> >> >>> > > Maybe this is it:
> >>>>>>> >> >>> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >>> > >

> >>>>>> >> >> >
> >>>>>> >> >> >

> http://www-912.ibm.com/s_dir/SLKBase.nsf/1ac66549a21402188625680b00

> >>>>>> >> >> > 02037e/02eae6f58c4cc0e886257a3a0042647c?OpenDocument

> >>>>>>> >> >>> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >>> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >>> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >>> > > On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Jack
> >>>>>>> >> >>> > Kingsley<iseriesflorida@xxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>> >> >>> > >wrote:
> >>>>>>> >> >>> > >

> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>> > >> > Jim, are you talking WAS 8.5 Express,

> I did something

> >>> >> like this a

> >>>>>> >> >> > while

> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>> > >> > back, I know you have to use

> installation manager and

> >>> >> QSH/PASE I

> >>>>>> >> >> > believe.

> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>> > >> >
> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>> > >> >
> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>> > >> > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Jim

> Oberholtzer<

> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>> > >> > midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

> wrote:

> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>> > >> >

> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> > >>> >> Cross posted on Midrange-L and

> Web400.

> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> > >>> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> > >>> >> Does anyone have the

> installation instructions for

> >>> >> loading the WAS

> >>>>>> >> >> > 8.5

> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> > >>> >> Express Supplements? Since IBM

> does not seem to

> >>> >> have any real

> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> > >>> >> installation documentation that

> I can find, and I'm

> >>> >> not the least

> >>>>>> >> >> > bit

> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> > >>> >> clairvoyant, I'd appreciate

> some guidance.

> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> > >>> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> > >>> >> --
> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> > >>> >> Jim Oberholtzer
> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> > >>> >> Chief Technical Architect
> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> > >>> >> Agile Technology Architects
> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> > >>> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> > >>> >> --

> >>>>>> >> >> > --

> --