Re: Content-type issue with application/json and application/javascript

bradley

where do the mime header come from?

how do you process the incomming json?

how do you handle different clients, one may send you text/plain and another
application/json and expext to get the same content-type back?

On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 6:11 PM, Bradley Stone <bvstone@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Well, I've updated our eRPG SDK to allow you to set the CCSID of the output
for situations like this... it was a pretty easy fix.

The example is here:
http://erpgsdk.bvstools.com/demo/

Look down the right for the DSPJSON example and you can run the program as
well as view the template file and JSON file used (which was retrieved from
Google Geocoding API for an address of the white house).

Brad
www.bvstools.com

On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 11:00 PM, Henrik Rützou <hr@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

bradley

i completely have forgotten that little trick ;-) as far as i remember
ms-office also works with it but i wouldn't rely on the method today
and not with json/webservices.



On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 5:00 AM, Bradley Stone <bvstone@xxxxxxxxx>

wrote:

I should state this was just in Chrome and I understand most clients
probably will ignore the Content-encoding header... but it was a fun

find.

:)

Brad
www.bvstools.com

On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 5:09 PM, Bradley Stone <bvstone@xxxxxxxxx>

wrote:

Henrik,

I found something you posted a few years ago and tried it and it

worked

for me...

Content-type: application/json
Content-encoding: EBCDIC

Is this something deemed incorrect or not a solution? I was actually
surprised it worked. :)

Maybe there is a better solution? It seems we would need to convert

all

the output to a specific CCSID before writing it out to StdOut

otherwise

(not a huge issue, but may be for some that can't just modify their
toolkits to do this).

Brad
www.bvstools.com

On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 3:41 PM, Matt Lavinder <
mlavinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Henrik -

Already downloaded it. :)

I noticed you example HTTP instance that you make UTF-8 the default
encoding. I can't do that. If possible, could you send me a very

simple

example of how to make this work in PowerEXT Core without changing

the

HTTP
Server configuration? I see the procedures for turning on UTF-8

mode

but

didn't see any examples that use them. Plus, you said the headers

cannot

be UTF-8 encoded.

I already have a CGIDEV2 template setup for my JSON, so I really

don't

want
to change gears and use the JSON library, but I have no issue doing

a

find

replace and changing WRTSECTION to something else and using the

PowerEXT

Core. I don't even mind changing the section and variable tags if I

need

to.


On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 2:18 PM, Henrik Rützou <hr@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

wrote:

mark

if you work a lot within this area you will find that ibm i

installations

seldom is able to dictate the content-type

text/json isn't btw an official mime type

On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 7:50 PM, Mark Murphy/STAR BASE Consulting

Inc. <

mmurphy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Just out of pure ignorance, since application/json causes

conversion

issues, and text/json appears to work properly, why do you want

to

use

application/json? Are there issues that text/json causes on the

client

side?

Mark Murphy
STAR BASE Consulting, Inc.
mmurphy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


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From: Matt Lavinder <mlavinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 08/25/2015 11:42AM
Subject: Re: [WEB400] Content-type issue with application/json

and

application/javascript

Henrik -

No worries. I have no intention of changing our CGIConvMode,

but

I

did

want to make sure I understood the implications. The bulk of

our

CGI

programs produce text/html and they work perfectly fine.

I plan to tweak the programs that produce JSON output and leave

everything

else alone.

On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 11:36 AM, Henrik Rützou <

hr@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

wrote:

btw if you use binary or recieve application/xxxx content type

the

input

also
is recieved as binary without conversion to ebcdic

On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 5:34 PM, Henrik Rützou <

hr@xxxxxxxxxxxx

wrote:

matt

you are right

On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 5:31 PM, Matt Lavinder <
mlavinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Kevin -

It's OK because I know enough to get what he was saying.

It

makes

it

pretty clear in the HTTP Server documentation that if you

add

"charset=utf-8"
(really, charset=anything) that no conversion occurs on

the

body.

I have never tried CGIConvMode %BINARY%, but wouldn't that

mean

that

all

your content has to be UTF-8, including output with

"content-type:text/*"?

On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Kevin Turner <
kevin.turner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Henrick

I know English is not your first language, but I couldn't

understand

that

at all :)

But anyway, my observations are not relevant because we

always

use

"CGIConvMode BINARY"

Kevin

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Behalf

Of

Henrik

Rützou
Sent: 25 August 2015 16:19
To: Web Enabling the IBM i (AS/400 and iSeries) <

web400@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

Subject: Re: [WEB400] Content-type issue with

application/json

and

application/javascript

apache doesn't neither converts from an ebcdic body if

you

send

then

the

body also has to be pre-encoded in utf-8

Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8

On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 5:14 PM, Kevin Turner <
kevin.turner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I am pretty sure we always ensure the data is in UTF-8

when

sending

content that has a content type that is anything but

"text/...."

-----Original Message-----
From: WEB400 [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On

Behalf

Of

Matt

Lavinder
Sent: 25 August 2015 16:12
To: Web Enabling the IBM i (AS/400 and iSeries) <

web400@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

Subject: Re: [WEB400] Content-type issue with

application/json

and

application/javascript

Hello Henrick. That's sort of what I suspected. Do I

have

to

change

the

CGI program to produce ASCII output, or is there a way

to

tell

Apache

to do an EBCDIC to ASCII conversion on an

"application/javascript"

content type?

On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 10:56 AM, Henrik Rützou <

hr@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

wrote:

apache converts ebcdic to utf-8 if the content type

is

text/...

othervise not.


On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Matt Lavinder <
mlavinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

We have several CGI programs that generate

javascript,

usually

JSON.

For years we have set the content type to

text/plain

or

text/javascript. I'd like to start using the more

standard

"application/json", but I am

hitting

a major snag. The output is garbage. I get the

exact

same

output

when I set the content-type to

application/javascript.

Just to verify this was related to CGI output, I

used

AddType

to

change

the

content-type of static JavaScript files to

"application/javascript".

Those

files look fine, so this must have something to do

with

it

being

CGI output.

I don't really know what is up with the output,

but I

know

it

isn't EBCDIC. It doesn't convert. Garbage in,

garbage

out.

Changing the

content

type back to text/javascript sets everything right.

Anyone have any guesses what is going on here? We

use

CGIDEV2

under IBM i 7.1. The default CCSID of our CGI jobs

is

37.

Just so we are clear on one thing. We had the

following

settings

in our HTTP Conf:

DefaultFsCCSID 037
CGIConvMode %%EBCDIC/EBCDIC%%

I commented both settings out and it had no impact

on

the

output

whatsoever. All of our CGI programs that use

content

type

of

"text/*"

seemed to work. The ones using

"application/javascript"

or

"application/json" for content type still looked

like

garbage.

The only guess I have is that mod_cgi sees that the

content-type

starts with "application" and treats the output as

binary,

but I

have no idea how I

can

tell mod_cgi to treat "application/javascript" as

text,

or

if

that

is

even

the issue.

I am hoping someone has an idea. I know Apache

pretty

well,

but

this one has me stumped.

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