Re: Holding off recommending Node.JS for now

Henrik,

I really don't see us using CGI on the IBM i. We can already run SQL against DB2 files and call CL and COBOL programs (via stored procedures) using the .NET Provider. I think the preference in our shop would be to train COBOL developers to use .NET rather than train them to use CGI on the IBM i.

Whether we should switch from COBOL to RPGLE is an issue that stands on its own. Some of our teams have started using COBOL ILE. But other teams are still using COBOL OPM. Given how much COBOL legacy code we have, we will never actually switch from COBOL to RPGLE. We would at most make an evolutionary migration from being "COBOL developers" to being "ILE developers" that used both COBOL and RPGLE. But this is really a discussion for a different forum.

Thanks,

Kelly Cookson
IT Project Leader
Dot Foods, Inc.
1.217.773.4486 ext. 12676
kcookson@xxxxxxxxxxxx

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From: WEB400 [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Henrik Rützou
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 3:07 AM
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Subject: Re: [WEB400] Holding off recommending Node.JS for now

Kelly

Sorry to say, you COBOL programmers has been left out for years since any new features and most Open Source tools for IBM I is RPGLE oriented in the meaning that it comes with /copybook's and if in other languages that RPGLE with RPGLE wrappers.

CGIDEV2 has a COBOL extension but outher tools from Easy/400 are RPGLE, Apache POI (java) has a RPGLE wrapper, YAJL (Yet Another JSON Library in C) has a RPG wrapper, HTTPAPI is in RPGLE, powerEXT (my own Open Source) is in RPGLE. Then there is also all the web products with a pricetag where some is bound to RPGOA.

Even if node.js became generally used on IBM I you would probably also see a lot of examples and wrappers made in RPGLE and few made in COBOL.

Last but not least - there is a lot of free resources in various forums like this that supports RPGLE.

So if you have decided to wait on .NET or mature node.js on IBM I it would be a good idea to take a look at RPGLE and if you don't already use it inline SQL.



On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 5:53 AM, Kelly Cookson <KCookson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Sure, leave us COBOL developers out in the cold again. ;-)

Seriously, though, I really don't want to get a year into the node
learning curve only to learn IBM has ported ASP.NET 5 to the IBM i.

Thanks,

Kelly Cookson
IT Project Leader
Dot Foods, Inc.
1.217.773.4486 ext. 12676
kcookson@xxxxxxxxxxxx

-----Original Message-----
From: WEB400 [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bradley
Stone
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 10:50 PM
To: Web Enabling the IBM i (AS/400 and iSeries)
Subject: Re: [WEB400] Holding off recommending Node.JS for now

.net in PASE running on an IBM i....

Maybe what we need is RPG in DOS running on a Chromebook! :)

Sorry, couldn't resist.


On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Kelly Cookson
<KCookson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Sad to say, I agree with you. However, I'm cautiously optimistic
that IBM will port ASP.NET 5 to PASE.

First, if IBM supports ASP.NET 5 in its Bluemix cloud, it has a
greater opportunity to sell cloud services. This is already happening.
You can already develop ASP.NET 5 applications on IBM's Bluemix
cloud (

https://developer.ibm.com/bluemix/2015/05/18/getting-started-asp-net-5
-bluemix/
).

This hopefully breaks any ice that might prevent IBM from porting
ASP.NET
5 to the IBM i.

Second, if IBM supports ASP.NET 5 in the IBM i PASE environment, it
would give IBM a greater opportunity to sell IBM i servers to .NET
shops. It may also maintain extisting IBM i shops. A number of shops
run both the IBM i and Windows servers. If ASP.NET 5 ran in PASE,
then growing commitment to .NET development would no longer mean
switching

from IBM i to Windows.

These shops could view the IBM i as an integral part of the .NET
environment.

Thanks,

Kelly Cookson
IT Project Leader
Dot Foods, Inc.
1.217.773.4486 ext. 12676
kcookson@xxxxxxxxxxxx

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