WAS Express requires the IM installer to actually put updates into the
actual running server instances. For IWS and the IAS (liberty) servers
running on IBM i are all updated only though a simple PTF update. The
servers will need to be turned off when the PTF is applied.

Tim


Tim Rowe, timmr@xxxxxxxxxx
Business Architect Application Development & Systems Management for IBM i
IBM i Development Lab, Rochester, MN
(507) 253-6191 (Tie) 553-6191

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----- Original message -----
From: "Jim Oberholtzer" <midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: Re: [WEB400] Web services primer
Date: Tue, May 3, 2016 10:48 AM

Tim,

Quick question that I've never thought about since none of my customers
currently use IWS outside of the automatic IBM supplied items. . We
know to
update the WAS Express 8.5 we run a program at the command line or in
the
*ADMIN server to apply the service pack after the PTFs are installed.

Does the IWS server get updated with just PTFs or is there an additional
step there too?

--
Jim Oberholtzer
Agile Technology Architects

-----Original Message-----
From: WEB400 [[1]mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tim
Rowe
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 9:54 AM
To: web400@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: web400@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [WEB400] Web services primer

Correction time. WebSphere is not a thing of the past, and on IBM i
it
is
included with your operating system license. Now, I would not
necessarily use full blown WebSphere when starting out with Web
Services.
There are many other options that the IBM i programmer will find
easier
to consume then doing the heavy lifting them selfs.

The Integrated Web Services (IWS) support is part of the IBM i OS,
supported on 7,1 and higher. Allows for SOAP or REST based web
services.
Web Site - [1][2]http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/power/software/i/iws/

Get the latest DG1 PTF Group and you have the most current support (
on
any supported release) This support leveraged the Liberty web
container
along with JAx-WS and JAX-RS. The Web Admin GUI interface gives the
IBM
i
programmer a super easy way to create and host their Web Services.

Thanks Tim

Tim Rowe, timmr@xxxxxxxxxx
Business Architect Application Development & Systems Management for
IBM i
IBM i Development Lab, Rochester, MN
(507) 253-6191 (Tie) 553-6191

[3]http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/power/software/i/are/index.html

----- Original message -----
From: Robert Cancilla <rcancill@xxxxxxx>
Sent by: "WEB400" <web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Web Enabling the IBM i (AS/400 and iSeries)"
<web400@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: Re: [WEB400] Web services primer
Date: Tue, May 3, 2016 9:38 AM

Jim,

Spend some time at Apache.org and take a good look at Tomcat or go
look
at JBOSS both are free open source servers. WebSphere is virtually
a
thing of the past. It makes no sense to spend the money on
WebSphere
today.

Bob C.

Sent from my iPad

> On May 3, 2016, at 6:12 AM, Jim Oberholtzer
<midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Folks:
>
>
>
> I have a customer that is about to take the plunge into web
services.
They
> first need to choose if they use WAS 8.5 Express, IWS or TOMCAT.
Some
of
> the IBM i instances have the Zend server so they would use that
when
> available. Next they need a good primer about design and
implementation.
> I've found the basic web sites from IBM but I'm wondering if the
group
has
> some suggestions on best practices and resources to use.
>
>
>
> The customer is at V7R1 now but will be at V7R2 very soon and
potentially
> V7R3 by end of year. Any comments on the IBM i environment as it
relates to
> web services would be welcome as well.
>
>
>
> While I can build and deploy a simple web service, I am far from
an
expert
> therefore my request to you.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Jim Oberholtzer
>
> Agile Technology Architects
>
>
>
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