..yeah, that's another issue, I've mentioned before that IBMs support for Node seemed a little half-hearted, which maybe a bit unfair, but their track record with open source tools isn't great, they're always miles behind the current version in my experience and trying to install anything in PASE was a complete nightmare. Aaron (Bartell) recently tweeted news that RPM and Yum are supported now which I think will make it easier to keep the open-source stuff up to date, unfortunately documentation seems sparse to non-existent at the moment (try Googling "ibm i" rpm yum" - grrrr)



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I wouldn’t go so far as to say node is the emperor’s new clothes. But I do think IBM could do better by providing the IBM i community with easier-to-use tools, better modules and better documentation. And maybe more recent versions of node in PASE.

It seems like IBM is porting node to PASE, offering some basic tools, and then hoping the open source community or vendors provide a friendlier developer environment. Maybe not. But that’s the impression I get from my experiences as a newbie to node.

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Right now, Node seems to me to be "The Emperor's New Clothes", but I'm watching it because IBM and others are pushing it hard (and that's why I did a proof-of-concept).



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Oh, I didn't mean to dis node in general at all, I'm a big fan of it 😊 and for developing front end stuff it's great. It's really just the lack of vendor support for database drivers and the lack of a consistent interface to them which is frustrating if you come from JavaEE where JDBC drivers are consistent and well supported, but they've had years to get it right - Node is still a baby by comparison. As I say, given the chance, I'd migrate my framework to Node, I much prefer to work in Typescript than Java and I wouldn't need a Java EE host, but I would be migrating from a very stable environment with cross platform support and right now I don't feel it's worth the investment.

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