Re: Web Intro Videos (was rpg webservices asynchronous)

On 4/9/2019 6:54 PM, Booth Martin wrote:

On 4/9/2019 3:21 PM, Raul Jager wrote:

He asked about start. Starting apachedft will give a "web page"
from the IBM i. Changing the page is also very easy, and,
of course, there is a lot more to have a full web server.

May I ask a question?  I am curious if our experiences are more parallel
or perpendicular.

Of the RPG programmers who you know who do not already know how to use
the IFS, Apache servers, etc...  of those individuals, how many do you
believe could get truly stated with those two instructions?  My
experience is that many of them would back away and fall back to SEU.

Raul's reply is almost exactly how I got started with web...stuff on IBM
i. It's a classic bootstrapping problem. I didn't know anything, so I
didn't even have decent keyword searches, didn't know what reference
material was beginner-level vs advanced, couldn't get any traction
because every piece of advice assumed 'prior knowledge' that I didn't
yet have.

I firmly believe that a week with a teacher will get you farther than
six months' of email exchanges. If you have more time than money, you
may be forced to go the DIY route. My lessons learnt from that
experience: I learnt older ideas (Google ranks search results with many
links above search results with few - older advice has more links...), I
learnt bad habits, and my final state is 'Well I think it should be this
way but I don't know why'.

One of the other things I learnt is that I didn't share enough
information with the people helping me. I thought I was doing them a
favour by including extremely minimalist snippets of code, config files,
data - I figured I didn't want to overwhelm them. It was much better to
use a file sharing site and share the entire config file, the entire RPG
program, the entire database table. Voilà, they could immediately see my
issue. The point is that when I 9the learner) chose what was 'important
enough to share' I almost always chose wrong. :-/ Lesson learnt. If I
were doing this today I'd open up a Github project and share/collaborate
that way. A Slack channel wouldn't hurt either and in that light,
consider the IBM Ryver channel for help.