Re: Re: perm apply ptf's

[rob@xxxxxxxxx]

Your last paragraph speaks volumes as to why I am not a big fan of 
permanently applying ptf's.  Been there, done that.

Rob Berendt
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Ahh, defective PTFs.... When I was a newbie I crashed our failover iSeries 

applying some PTFs. This was back in December of 2000 when I had been 
fresh out of college in May and working with the AS/400s. We were pretty 
religious about scouring through the defective PTF lists back then. I had 
spreadsheets setup, etc.... Pretty cool little system. Anyway, about a 
week prior we loaded the PTFs on our production box (why in the world my 
bosses did that instead of loading on failover first I still don't know!). 

We had some issues and found that one of the PTFs on that latest CUME was 
bad. So, my boss told me to make sure I excluded it when doing the 
failover PTFs. I still swear to this day that I double-checked to make 
sure it wasn't loaded, but when I was bringing the box back up - bam!

Couldn't even get to the A side to remove it! Had to slip the LIC and 
reinstall completely!!! Fun experience for me...lol

Chris Whisonant
Comporium
Senior Mid-Range Systems Administrator
IBM eServer Certified Systems Expert - iSeries Technical Solutions V5R2
IBM Certified System Administrator - Lotus Notes and Domino 6/6.5
803.326.7270 | 803.326.6142 fax
http://cwhisonant.blogspot.com/

domino400-bounces+chris.whisonant=comporium.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 
04/21/2005 08:31:31 AM:

> PTFs have been like playing Russian roulette with a fully loaded 
revolver 
> over the last year or so. 
> 
> We have been burned many, many times.
> 
> Anything Domino related we install TEMP, and I usually test the backout 
if 
> it is significant enough.
> 
> The usual OS/400, Java, Brms etc are applied on a 4 week rotation on our 


> systems are applied as PERM. 
> 
> We are usually a month behind the bleeding edge in PTFs.
> 
> You want to lose sleep at night? 
> 
> Read up on defective PTFs................   It amazes me that DB2 on 
> iSeries even works. 
> 
> http://www-912.ibm.com/s_dir/sline003.
> NSF/3a8f58452f9800bc862562900059e09e/c6ab0c609a1d2f3e86256c0f00586539?
> OpenDocument
> 
> Sean
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