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Chad, We just finished our annual Disaster Recovery Testing at IBM. We were able to restore the entire primary Domino iSeries system in 10 hours from our backups. We have over 800 GB of data on each side of the iSeries Domino Cluster. The only thing we needed to configure after a full system restore was the ethernet lines. I was in and out of IBM in one day, with spare time to play 9 holes of Golf. :) We run a large Cluster of Domino Servers and we use BRMS to Backup the Domino Databases. Our main iSeries hosting Domino is backup up fully weekly, using the BRMS version of Option 21. We do our daily backups on the secondary iSeries, for the domino databases only and I run the exclusions list weekly as well so we have all of the files such as the notes.ini . We can restore the secondary from our daily but is requires additional configuration which I try to avoid. Domino Transactional Logs are running in Circular mode and use BRMS save while active feature with the Domino APIs, so there is no downtime on the secondary iSeries system for Domino. In fact we can run the BRMS jobs during the day and have it set to do 100 databases concurrently. We now use BRMS for everything. It creates great reports, and makes it easy for us to "show" the business how we can easily restore the systems. I would recommend BRMS to anyone looking for a more reliable way to automate backup and recovery. No more writing CL programs that can easily and restores are a breeze as well. Regards, Sean http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com domino400-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Sent by: domino400-bounces+seanmurphy=bedbath.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx 08/17/2005 09:19 AM Please respond to domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx To domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx cc Subject Domino400 Digest, Vol 3, Issue 171 Send Domino400 mailing list submissions to domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/domino400 or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to domino400-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx You can reach the person managing the list at domino400-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxx When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Domino400 digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Cluster backup ideas (ChadB@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) 2. Re: Cluster backup ideas (Chris Whisonant) 3. Re: Cluster backup ideas (ChadB@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) 4. Re: Cluster backup ideas (Chris Whisonant) 5. Re: Cluster backup ideas (ChadB@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- message: 1 date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 08:58:05 -0400 from: ChadB@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx subject: Cluster backup ideas We are running a cluster with 2 Domino servers on 2 separate AS/400s. One Domino server is our 'main' server and is used for mail and a few apps. The other Domino server is our 'backup' server and is left as restricted to the users unless we are switched to it on a monthly test, etc. All mail and application databases are replicated in the cluster. Configuration changes for the servers are VERY rare. Our current backup strategy is: -Both AS/400s are saved with an Option 21 full system backup once per month -The main Domino server is shut down each night and saved with a SAV command against the entire IFS (we check the results and are only missing some Websphere logs, etc. In other words, Domino is getting saved fully). -The backup Domino server runs continually and is not backed up on a daily basis. Now that we're up and running well on this cluster and switchovers are working well, I want to verify that this scenario should work well enough. We are very comfortable with being able to restore the main Domino server from the nightly backup. We are thinking that we would restore the backup Domino server from the monthly Option 21 and let the cluster get things repopulated in the backup Domino server's databases. Is this a valid strategy? _____________________________________________________________________________ Scanned by IBM Email Security Management Services powered by MessageLabs. For more information please visit http://www.ers.ibm.com _____________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ message: 2 date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 08:58:10 -0400 from: Chris Whisonant <Chris.Whisonant@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> subject: Re: Cluster backup ideas That sounds pretty good, though it may be better to restore from the nightly IFS saves (IMHO). Just also wondering if you have run the Cluster Analysis tool? Chris Whisonant Comporium Senior Mid-Range Systems Administrator IBM eServer Certified Systems Expert - iSeries Technical Solutions V5R2 IBM Certified System Administrator - Lotus Notes and Domino 6/6.5 803.326.7270 | 803.326.6142 fax http://cwhisonant.blogspot.com/ domino400-bounces+chris.whisonant=comporium.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 08/17/2005 08:58:05 AM: > > > > > > We are running a cluster with 2 Domino servers on 2 separate AS/400s. One > Domino server is our 'main' server and is used for mail and a few apps. > The other Domino server is our 'backup' server and is left as restricted to > the users unless we are switched to it on a monthly test, etc. All mail > and application databases are replicated in the cluster. Configuration > changes for the servers are VERY rare. > > > Our current backup strategy is: > > -Both AS/400s are saved with an Option 21 full system backup once per month > > -The main Domino server is shut down each night and saved with a SAV > command against the entire IFS (we check the results and are only missing > some Websphere logs, etc. In other words, Domino is getting saved fully). > > -The backup Domino server runs continually and is not backed up on a daily > basis. > > > > Now that we're up and running well on this cluster and switchovers are > working well, I want to verify that this scenario should work well enough. > We are very comfortable with being able to restore the main Domino server > from the nightly backup. We are thinking that we would restore the backup > Domino server from the monthly Option 21 and let the cluster get things > repopulated in the backup Domino server's databases. > > Is this a valid strategy? > > _____________________________________________________________________________ > Scanned by IBM Email Security Management Services powered by > MessageLabs. For more information please visit http://www.ers.ibm.com > _____________________________________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > This is the Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 (Domino400) mailing list > To post a message email: Domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/domino400 > or email: Domino400-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > at http://archive.midrange.com/domino400. > ------------------------------ message: 3 date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 09:06:01 -0400 from: ChadB@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx subject: Re: Cluster backup ideas Agreed, but the backup server isn't getting the IFS saved nighly. Refresh me on what the cluster analysis tool does... I think I ran it when setting things up initially... Chris Whisonant <Chris.Whisonant@ comporium.com> To Sent by: Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 domino400-bounces <domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx> +chadb=wheeling-n cc isshin.com@midran ge.com Subject Re: Cluster backup ideas 08/17/2005 08:58 AM Please respond to Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 <domino400@midran ge.com> That sounds pretty good, though it may be better to restore from the nightly IFS saves (IMHO). Just also wondering if you have run the Cluster Analysis tool? Chris Whisonant Comporium Senior Mid-Range Systems Administrator IBM eServer Certified Systems Expert - iSeries Technical Solutions V5R2 IBM Certified System Administrator - Lotus Notes and Domino 6/6.5 803.326.7270 | 803.326.6142 fax http://cwhisonant.blogspot.com/ domino400-bounces+chris.whisonant=comporium.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 08/17/2005 08:58:05 AM: > > > > > > We are running a cluster with 2 Domino servers on 2 separate AS/400s. One > Domino server is our 'main' server and is used for mail and a few apps. > The other Domino server is our 'backup' server and is left as restricted to > the users unless we are switched to it on a monthly test, etc. All mail > and application databases are replicated in the cluster. Configuration > changes for the servers are VERY rare. > > > Our current backup strategy is: > > -Both AS/400s are saved with an Option 21 full system backup once per month > > -The main Domino server is shut down each night and saved with a SAV > command against the entire IFS (we check the results and are only missing > some Websphere logs, etc. In other words, Domino is getting saved fully). > > -The backup Domino server runs continually and is not backed up on a daily > basis. > > > > Now that we're up and running well on this cluster and switchovers are > working well, I want to verify that this scenario should work well enough. > We are very comfortable with being able to restore the main Domino server > from the nightly backup. We are thinking that we would restore the backup > Domino server from the monthly Option 21 and let the cluster get things > repopulated in the backup Domino server's databases. > > Is this a valid strategy? > > _____________________________________________________________________________ > Scanned by IBM Email Security Management Services powered by > MessageLabs. For more information please visit http://www.ers.ibm.com > _____________________________________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > This is the Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 (Domino400) mailing list > To post a message email: Domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/domino400 > or email: Domino400-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > at http://archive.midrange.com/domino400. > _______________________________________________ This is the Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 (Domino400) mailing list To post a message email: Domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/domino400 or email: Domino400-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/domino400. _____________________________________________________________________________ Scanned by IBM Email Security Management Services powered by MessageLabs. For more information please visit http://www.ers.ibm.com _____________________________________________________________________________ ForwardSourceID:NT00028D56 _____________________________________________________________________________ Scanned by IBM Email Security Management Services powered by MessageLabs. For more information please visit http://www.ers.ibm.com _____________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ message: 4 date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 09:08:38 -0400 from: Chris Whisonant <Chris.Whisonant@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> subject: Re: Cluster backup ideas I was thinking you could restore what you needed to the backup from the primary that's saved nightly. The analysis tools checks for replica existence, consistent ACL, etc... Chris Whisonant Comporium Senior Mid-Range Systems Administrator IBM eServer Certified Systems Expert - iSeries Technical Solutions V5R2 IBM Certified System Administrator - Lotus Notes and Domino 6/6.5 803.326.7270 | 803.326.6142 fax http://cwhisonant.blogspot.com/ domino400-bounces+chris.whisonant=comporium.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 08/17/2005 09:06:01 AM: > > > > > > Agreed, but the backup server isn't getting the IFS saved nighly. > > Refresh me on what the cluster analysis tool does... I think I ran it when > setting things up initially... > > Chris Whisonant > <Chris.Whisonant@ > comporium.com> To > Sent by: Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 > domino400-bounces <domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > +chadb=wheeling-n cc > isshin.com@midran > ge.com Subject > Re: Cluster backup ideas > > 08/17/2005 08:58 > AM > > > Please respond to > Lotus Domino on > the iSeries / > AS400 > <domino400@midran > ge.com> > > > > > > > That sounds pretty good, though it may be better to restore from the > nightly IFS saves (IMHO). > > Just also wondering if you have run the Cluster Analysis tool? > > Chris Whisonant > Comporium > Senior Mid-Range Systems Administrator > IBM eServer Certified Systems Expert - iSeries Technical Solutions V5R2 > IBM Certified System Administrator - Lotus Notes and Domino 6/6.5 > 803.326.7270 | 803.326.6142 fax > http://cwhisonant.blogspot.com/ > > domino400-bounces+chris.whisonant=comporium.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on > 08/17/2005 08:58:05 AM: > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are running a cluster with 2 Domino servers on 2 separate AS/400s. > One > > Domino server is our 'main' server and is used for mail and a few apps. > > The other Domino server is our 'backup' server and is left as restricted > to > > the users unless we are switched to it on a monthly test, etc. All mail > > and application databases are replicated in the cluster. Configuration > > changes for the servers are VERY rare. > > > > > > Our current backup strategy is: > > > > -Both AS/400s are saved with an Option 21 full system backup once per > month > > > > -The main Domino server is shut down each night and saved with a SAV > > command against the entire IFS (we check the results and are only > missing > > some Websphere logs, etc. In other words, Domino is getting saved > fully). > > > > -The backup Domino server runs continually and is not backed up on a > daily > > basis. > > > > > > > > Now that we're up and running well on this cluster and switchovers are > > working well, I want to verify that this scenario should work well > enough. > > We are very comfortable with being able to restore the main Domino > server > > from the nightly backup. We are thinking that we would restore the > backup > > Domino server from the monthly Option 21 and let the cluster get things > > repopulated in the backup Domino server's databases. > > > > Is this a valid strategy? > > > > > _____________________________________________________________________________ > > > Scanned by IBM Email Security Management Services powered by > > MessageLabs. For more information please visit http://www.ers.ibm.com > > > _____________________________________________________________________________ > > > _______________________________________________ > > This is the Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 (Domino400) mailing list > > To post a message email: Domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/domino400 > > or email: Domino400-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > > at http://archive.midrange.com/domino400. > > > _______________________________________________ > This is the Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 (Domino400) mailing list > To post a message email: Domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/domino400 > or email: Domino400-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > at http://archive.midrange.com/domino400. > > > _____________________________________________________________________________ > > Scanned by IBM Email Security Management Services powered by MessageLabs. > For more information please visit http://www.ers.ibm.com > _____________________________________________________________________________ > > > ForwardSourceID:NT00028D56 > > _____________________________________________________________________________ > Scanned by IBM Email Security Management Services powered by > MessageLabs. For more information please visit http://www.ers.ibm.com > ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ > This is the Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 (Domino400) mailing list > To post a message email: Domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/domino400 > or email: Domino400-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > at http://archive.midrange.com/domino400. > ------------------------------ message: 5 date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 09:21:12 -0400 from: ChadB@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx subject: Re: Cluster backup ideas Gotcha... restore the DBs to the backup server from the main server's save (same replica ids), right? That would be another option, I guess... When we do a monthly test, we leave the main server down for a day and generally see things replicate back pretty quickly... I just want make sure this would hold true after a restore from an earlier backup. Chris Whisonant <Chris.Whisonant@ comporium.com> To Sent by: Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 domino400-bounces <domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx> +chadb=wheeling-n cc isshin.com@midran ge.com Subject Re: Cluster backup ideas 08/17/2005 09:08 AM Please respond to Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 <domino400@midran ge.com> I was thinking you could restore what you needed to the backup from the primary that's saved nightly. The analysis tools checks for replica existence, consistent ACL, etc... Chris Whisonant Comporium Senior Mid-Range Systems Administrator IBM eServer Certified Systems Expert - iSeries Technical Solutions V5R2 IBM Certified System Administrator - Lotus Notes and Domino 6/6.5 803.326.7270 | 803.326.6142 fax http://cwhisonant.blogspot.com/ domino400-bounces+chris.whisonant=comporium.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 08/17/2005 09:06:01 AM: > > > > > > Agreed, but the backup server isn't getting the IFS saved nighly. > > Refresh me on what the cluster analysis tool does... I think I ran it when > setting things up initially... > > Chris Whisonant > <Chris.Whisonant@ > comporium.com> To > Sent by: Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 > domino400-bounces <domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > +chadb=wheeling-n cc > isshin.com@midran > ge.com Subject > Re: Cluster backup ideas > > 08/17/2005 08:58 > AM > > > Please respond to > Lotus Domino on > the iSeries / > AS400 > <domino400@midran > ge.com> > > > > > > > That sounds pretty good, though it may be better to restore from the > nightly IFS saves (IMHO). > > Just also wondering if you have run the Cluster Analysis tool? > > Chris Whisonant > Comporium > Senior Mid-Range Systems Administrator > IBM eServer Certified Systems Expert - iSeries Technical Solutions V5R2 > IBM Certified System Administrator - Lotus Notes and Domino 6/6.5 > 803.326.7270 | 803.326.6142 fax > http://cwhisonant.blogspot.com/ > > domino400-bounces+chris.whisonant=comporium.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on > 08/17/2005 08:58:05 AM: > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are running a cluster with 2 Domino servers on 2 separate AS/400s. > One > > Domino server is our 'main' server and is used for mail and a few apps. > > The other Domino server is our 'backup' server and is left as restricted > to > > the users unless we are switched to it on a monthly test, etc. All mail > > and application databases are replicated in the cluster. Configuration > > changes for the servers are VERY rare. > > > > > > Our current backup strategy is: > > > > -Both AS/400s are saved with an Option 21 full system backup once per > month > > > > -The main Domino server is shut down each night and saved with a SAV > > command against the entire IFS (we check the results and are only > missing > > some Websphere logs, etc. In other words, Domino is getting saved > fully). > > > > -The backup Domino server runs continually and is not backed up on a > daily > > basis. > > > > > > > > Now that we're up and running well on this cluster and switchovers are > > working well, I want to verify that this scenario should work well > enough. > > We are very comfortable with being able to restore the main Domino > server > > from the nightly backup. We are thinking that we would restore the > backup > > Domino server from the monthly Option 21 and let the cluster get things > > repopulated in the backup Domino server's databases. > > > > Is this a valid strategy? > > > > > _____________________________________________________________________________ > > > Scanned by IBM Email Security Management Services powered by > > MessageLabs. 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