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I get the impression from these posts that it may be better to restore the actual DBs from the backup server and let the cluster handle getting things up to date, rather than trying to restore the more up to date DBs from the main server and 'faking' out the cluster. Sound correct? Rich.Frye@xxxxxxx om Sent by: To domino400-bounces Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 +chadb=wheeling-n <domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx> isshin.com@midran cc ge.com Subject Re: Cluster backup ideas 08/17/2005 09:51 AM Please respond to Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 <domino400@midran ge.com> Chris, It drove me crazy when that happened to me, and it happened to one of the people who sign the checks. You are right about the date stamp, but for the life of me I kept having the db's sync to the previous state. I just disabled replication and was able to move ahead. I am sure you have seen strange stuff happen that doesn't make sense. I agree with the logic and implemented a similiar setup except I used a cross over cable to perform the cluster replication. Really cut down on network traffic. Rich Frye Software Consulting Hardware, Inc. (877) 936-9829 (Office) (513) 936-0128 (Fax) Rich.Frye@xxxxxxxxx IBM Certified System Administrator - Lotus Notes and Domino 6/6.5 Chris Whisonant <Chris.Whisonant@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent by: domino400-bounces+rich.frye=sch-i.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx 08/17/2005 09:36 AM Please respond to Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 <domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 <domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx> cc Subject Re: Cluster backup ideas Richard, yeah, I was kind of thinking about that in the back of my mind.... In theory, it should see the production replica as the more recently changed and sync with it, right? But stranger things have happened! Chris Whisonant Comporium Senior Mid-Range Systems Administrator IBM eServer Certified Systems Expert - iSeries Technical Solutions V5R2 IBM Certified System Administrator - Lotus Notes and Domino 6/6.5 803.326.7270 | 803.326.6142 fax http://cwhisonant.blogspot.com/ domino400-bounces+chris.whisonant=comporium.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 08/17/2005 09:21:39 AM: > Be careful when and where you restore databases with replica ID's. I have > had instances where the system located the restored database and sync'd > them, not with good resultes. > > Richard A. Frye > Software Consulting Hardware, Inc. > (877) 936-9829 (Office) > (513) 936-0128 (Fax) > Rich.Frye@xxxxxxxxx > IBM Certified System Administrator - Lotus Notes and Domino 6/6.5 > > > > > ChadB@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent by: domino400-bounces+rich.frye=sch-i.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx > 08/17/2005 09:21 AM > Please respond to > Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 <domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > To > Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 <domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > cc > > Subject > Re: Cluster backup ideas > > > > > > > > > > > > Gotcha... restore the DBs to the backup server from the main server's save > (same replica ids), right? That would be another option, I guess... > > When we do a monthly test, we leave the main server down for a day and > generally see things replicate back pretty quickly... I just want make > sure > this would hold true after a restore from an earlier backup. > > > > Chris Whisonant > <Chris.Whisonant@ > comporium.com> To > > Sent by: Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 > > domino400-bounces <domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > +chadb=wheeling-n cc > > isshin.com@midran > ge.com Subject > > Re: Cluster backup ideas > > 08/17/2005 09:08 > AM > > > Please respond to > Lotus Domino on > the iSeries / > AS400 > <domino400@midran > ge.com> > > > > > > > I was thinking you could restore what you needed to the backup from the > primary that's saved nightly. > > The analysis tools checks for replica existence, consistent ACL, etc... > > Chris Whisonant > Comporium > Senior Mid-Range Systems Administrator > IBM eServer Certified Systems Expert - iSeries Technical Solutions V5R2 > IBM Certified System Administrator - Lotus Notes and Domino 6/6.5 > 803.326.7270 | 803.326.6142 fax > http://cwhisonant.blogspot.com/ > > domino400-bounces+chris.whisonant=comporium.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on > 08/17/2005 09:06:01 AM: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agreed, but the backup server isn't getting the IFS saved nighly. > > > > Refresh me on what the cluster analysis tool does... I think I ran it > when > > setting things up initially... > > > > Chris Whisonant > > <Chris.Whisonant@ > > comporium.com> To > > Sent by: Lotus Domino on the iSeries / > AS400 > > domino400-bounces <domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > +chadb=wheeling-n cc > > isshin.com@midran > > ge.com Subject > > Re: Cluster backup ideas > > > > 08/17/2005 08:58 > > AM > > > > > > Please respond to > > Lotus Domino on > > the iSeries / > > AS400 > > <domino400@midran > > ge.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That sounds pretty good, though it may be better to restore from the > > nightly IFS saves (IMHO). > > > > Just also wondering if you have run the Cluster Analysis tool? > > > > Chris Whisonant > > Comporium > > Senior Mid-Range Systems Administrator > > IBM eServer Certified Systems Expert - iSeries Technical Solutions V5R2 > > IBM Certified System Administrator - Lotus Notes and Domino 6/6.5 > > 803.326.7270 | 803.326.6142 fax > > http://cwhisonant.blogspot.com/ > > > > domino400-bounces+chris.whisonant=comporium.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on > > 08/17/2005 08:58:05 AM: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are running a cluster with 2 Domino servers on 2 separate AS/400s. > > One > > > Domino server is our 'main' server and is used for mail and a few > apps. > > > The other Domino server is our 'backup' server and is left as > restricted > > to > > > the users unless we are switched to it on a monthly test, etc. All > mail > > > and application databases are replicated in the cluster. Configuration > > > changes for the servers are VERY rare. > > > > > > > > > Our current backup strategy is: > > > > > > -Both AS/400s are saved with an Option 21 full system backup once per > > month > > > > > > -The main Domino server is shut down each night and saved with a SAV > > > command against the entire IFS (we check the results and are only > > missing > > > some Websphere logs, etc. In other words, Domino is getting saved > > fully). > > > > > > -The backup Domino server runs continually and is not backed up on a > > daily > > > basis. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now that we're up and running well on this cluster and switchovers are > > > working well, I want to verify that this scenario should work well > > enough. > > > We are very comfortable with being able to restore the main Domino > > server > > > from the nightly backup. We are thinking that we would restore the > > backup > > > Domino server from the monthly Option 21 and let the cluster get > things > > > repopulated in the backup Domino server's databases. > > > > > > Is this a valid strategy? > > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > Scanned by IBM Email Security Management Services powered by > > > MessageLabs. 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