Bravo to sir!
  Go get em!
  Al
  Alex Montalvo
  AS/400 Consultant
  1(917)442-5450 Cell
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    From:  "Stephen King" <sking@xxxxxxxxx>
    CC:  <midrange-jobs@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
    Subject:  Re: [MIDRANGE-JOBS] Fw: H-1B/offshoring debate at UCLA
    Date:  Fri, 9 Nov 2007 10:57:51 -0500
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    >I agree that corporate greed is the real problem.  I worked my way up
    from an operator trainee on 3 system/38's to be a project leader in the
    programmer department of my old company I worked at. This after 3 years
    in fast food trying to do my AA degree at night.  I planned to work and
    retire there, and a few LBO's later, me and 8 others are booted and the
    headquarters moved.
    >
    >The programming was outsourced too.  So I am with Alex.  I got lucky, I
    work now in the insurance industry and this small company is strong.  On
    year 9 now.  I hope it will last as long as possible.
    >
    >As a father of two sons, I am discouraging them from the computer
    field, why waste their time in a market constantly shipping jobs
    overseas?  People who keep saying it is a "world economy" and everyone
    should get with the program.  I say they are have lost sight of what it
    means to be American in America.  Screw NAFTA and the United North
    America crap.  That is exactly what it is, crap.  When you put another
    country or $$$ before the patriotism, you have lost your way.
    >
    >Americans come first, why, because we are in America.  Care for your
    brothers and sisters in this country should come first:  "We the People
    of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish
    Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence,
    promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to
    ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution
    for the United States of America."
    >
    >Nowhere does it say we have to take jobs from our people [Americans]to
    give to everyone else and be caretaker for every other backwater country
    on this planet.  Listen to Lou Dobbs on CNN.  At least someone
    represents the middle class.  No one else does.
    >
    >God Bless America....
    >
    >
    >-----Original Message-----
    >From: midrange-jobs-bounces+sking=gbsio.net@xxxxxxxxxxxx
    >[mailto:midrange-jobs-bounces+sking=gbsio.net@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of
    >Alex Montalvo
    >Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 10:29 AM
    >To: Larry.Ketzes@xxxxxxx; michaelrtr@xxxxxxxxx
    >Cc: midrange-jobs@xxxxxxxxxxxx; cpf0000@xxxxxxxxxxxx
    >Subject: Re: [MIDRANGE-JOBS] Fw: H-1B/offshoring debate at UCLA
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    >    I am not prejudiced, I am objective! Should I have substituted
    Jewish by
    >    Williamsburg based? and Eastern Indian by American headdress
    challenged? I
    >    have friends of all nationalities I an American Citizen with
    Caribbean
    >    Spanish descendants. It's the brazenness of the way companies
    pursue cheap
    >    foreign labor that I find insulting.
    >
    >     Headhunters have pulled this time and time again " We have a long
    term 1+
    >    year contract all our consultants stay there longer" then two
    months or so
    >    later you get " due to budget cutbacks were ending your contract in
    two
    >    weeks" that's happened to me at least 4 times while doing
    everything they
    >    asked of me above and beyond most times. But the H1B's stay!
    >
    >    One question is there a way to negotiate a contract without being
    fooled
    >    as to length of the project?
    >
    >    Alex Montalvo AS/400 Consultant 1(917)442-5450 Cell
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